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feketegy
| pmjones I was referring to the coupling too | 05:30 |
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pmjones
| good day all | 14:45 |
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| oh and hi garethdaine | 14:45 |
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garethdaine
| Hi | 14:46 |
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garethdaine
| So how does Aura compare to the more popular PHP frameworks? What advantages does it have over them? | 16:13 |
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agentile_
| I would say the major pro is that it is more a collection of libraries that are decoupled | 16:20 |
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| and can be singularly used in and of themselves | 16:20 |
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| To me, that is very appealing | 16:20 |
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| Using only what is needed. | 16:20 |
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garethdaine
| Don't most new Frameworks do that too, like Laravel | 16:39 |
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| Not sure though really | 16:40 |
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simensen
| I think that saying Aura is decoupled in the same way that Laravel, Symfony, Zend, etc are would be fighting words in here. ;) | 16:45 |
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garethdaine
| Haha, Oh really. How come? | 16:46 |
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simensen
| garethdaine: out of curiosity, what are you looking for here? reasons to use aura over other projects? are you just curious about aura? what other frameworks have you worked with? | 16:46 |
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joelclermont
| i can't comment on Laravel since I've never tried to use it in a decoupled fashion, but trying to use Symfony decoupled is almost impossible. ZF 1 was better (haven't played with ZF2) but still had lots of dependencies | 16:46 |
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| Aura is what I've been looking for a long time | 16:46 |
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| i don't mind coupling in all cases, i've built plenty of symfony and zf full stack apps | 16:47 |
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garethdaine
| Got to say I'm pretty framework agnostic. I have favourites obviously but they're just tools to get a job done. I'm not biased myself. | 16:47 |
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| Anyway, yeah. I'm just curious about Aura | 16:47 |
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joelclermont
| but when i'm trying to modernize a legacy codebase, it's a lot more painful to do it when the framework you're trying to slowly move to is very coupled | 16:47 |
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simensen
| garethdaine: there have been a lot of articles going back and forth on how aura is different in how it is decoupled. its components are completely standalone and don't require anything else. so you can just pick one component and that is all you need. | 16:47 |
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garethdaine
| I've used lAravel 3, 4, CodeIgniter, Cake and Zend | 16:47 |
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joelclermont
| garethdaine: i'm like you. lots of tools in the bag, pick the right one for the job at hnd | 16:48 |
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garethdaine
| Exactly joelclermont | 16:48 |
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simensen
| joelclermont: i think it definitely depends on which components you are trying to use from symfony and what you're trying to do with them. some of them are very inincestuous. :) | 16:48 |
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garethdaine
| I'm really liking Laravel 4 at the moment but I want to try Aura out | 16:48 |
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| Just come in to see what people like about it really | 16:49 |
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| What's the CLI like for Aura? Also, does it have migrations? | 16:50 |
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| Also, does Aura have an ORM? | 16:51 |
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joelclermont
| garethdaine: no i don't think so. i'm new to it, but i haven't seen anything like an ORM | 16:52 |
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| i use the sql and marshal packages | 16:52 |
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garethdaine
| :-( That's a pitty | 16:52 |
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| Not a deal breaker though | 16:52 |
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| Looks like you can pretty much easily add one | 16:52 |
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| Anyway, thanks for the info. Gonna give it a try at the weekend. :-) | 16:58 |
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| pmjones: What's your Twitter matey? | 16:58 |
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pmjones
| garethdaine: oh sorry man, stepped away | 17:06 |
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simensen
| garethdaine: same as his IRC handle. :) | 17:06 |
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pmjones
| i'm @pmjones | 17:06 |
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| thanks simensen | 17:06 |
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simensen
| pmjones: no problem :) | 17:07 |
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pmjones
| garethdaine: on "what makes aura different", the guys at phpmagazin asked me that last year, and i posted the interview here: http://paul-m-jones.com/archives/4152 | 17:08 |
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| that may be helpful | 17:08 |
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| guys, i'm gone for the day. | 21:21 |
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