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2014-09-05

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devosc hi guys, my name is greg and I've been working on php 5.5 "whatever/system", I've noticed that the system actually doesn't need to know anything about the actual interfaces of Request and Response objects05:48
Stupid me never mind ... thanks for making ResponseSender callable.05:49
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devosc I wanted to see if I could remove my 'Response\Sender' and use Web\ResponseSender instead; I would then need to extend Web\Request so as to apply my own interface.07:49
Since the request class has no interface methods I can't use it .. oh boy07:51
Here is the DI Config I ended up with the Web\Request https://gist.github.com/devosc/0c821e506c4c85ce5c2d07:51
I would of liked to get host name from the Request object with 'Request.host' where dot indicates it is a method call.07:53
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harikt Hey good day to all14:39
Good day pmjones .14:39
You are early here :)14:39
pmjones hey there harikt14:39
harikt :)14:39
pmjones yeah i've been leaving IRC on overnight lately ;-)14:39
i see your PRs and will address14:39
harikt nods14:39
pmjones kernel and project-level stuff has to be dealt with delicately so we don't bust dependencies for too long14:40
and regarding using `phpunit` instead of `./phpunit.sh` -- yes, i see your point14:40
i wanted to make it "all tests all run the same way all the time"14:40
harikt I understand.14:41
pmjones but having the library-only unit tests go with just `phpunit` seems fine14:41
harikt great!14:41
What about writing the testing as a seprate page ?14:41
pmjones the container, kernel, and project tests though -- those will stay ./phpunit.sh14:41
harikt so we can link to the page14:41
pmjones harikt: separate page?14:41
oh, no, it's not that big a deal14:42
harikt ya for testing .14:42
ok.14:42
pmjones update the README in each repo, and done14:42
harikt :) you need to update 20 repos Paul .14:42
pmjones if you like, though, you can see if the auraphp.com/contributing page needs touching up14:42
20 repos? that's what scripts are for ;-)14:42
harikt hm. you are doing with scripts14:42
aaaha14:42
pmjones mostly14:42
harikt nice then!14:42
not by me.14:43
pmjones the script does the heavy lifting, then i go back and tweak the results, and commit/push14:43
harikt hand made14:43
pmjones yeah14:43
harikt pmjones, I wonder then you have not created a auraphp console tool which can create package / library classes14:44
like the artisian14:44
pmjones shrugs14:44
pmjones when the time comes, there'll be one for creating ADR dirs14:44
but for creating libraries, it's not that big a deal14:44
oh, for the testing updates, the script was this: https://gist.github.com/pmjones/7b9a44749c4b838ac47514:44
harikt :)14:44
pmjones ./newtest.sh Filter14:44
but it has to be in a directory with all the other packages in it14:45
blah blah blah14:45
harikt mm.14:46
this script is nice.14:46
I was wondering how you do for the readme.md14:46
anyway may be the git helps to see a diff14:47
:)14:47
by the way pmjones I gave the link to http://voicesoftheelephpant.com/2012/05/01/fig-fud-fomo/ so DG can hear why PSR exists14:48
pmjones he knows why it exists :-)14:48
he just doesn't like that other people think "there is only one set of standards"14:48
and that the set of standards is not something he likes14:49
pmjones shrugs14:49
pmjones he's changed the name and added attribution, so i think we're ok now14:49
harikt :) .14:49
pmjones, here you go https://github.com/php-group/standards/issues/1#issuecomment-5463462214:50
deal ?14:51
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harikt Thanks Paul14:55
:)14:55
pmjones yeah, we'll see if that actually goes anywhere or not :-)14:55
and thank *you* for noting it14:55
harikt yup, we will see.14:56
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harikt and you are welcome. Always a pleasure to let you know something14:56
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devosc hey paul, did you see my notes from earlier about the Web\Request ?15:38
harikt devosc, anything public so I can also have a look ?15:39
devosc http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/auraphp?date=2014-09-0515:39
I ended up using SF. I was interested in having the separate Response and Responder classes.15:43
harikt devosc, not sure I understand. I was looking into it .15:46
Looking at your github profile I think I have came accross your profile :)15:46
pmjones oh hey there devosc15:47
pmjones scrolls up15:47
harikt devosc, what are you tring to do actually ?15:47
devosc The snag is the Request object doesn't have any interface methods.15:47
harikt ok, pmjones may be able to help with it .15:48
pmjones devosc: sorry, i don't think i understand your question15:48
devosc I'm trying to chain method calls to retrieve values, e.g 'Request.host' would resolve to $request->host() but there no methods15:48
pmjones yes, the Aura.Web Request object is basically a collection of properties, that are themselves objects, with the various functionality separated that way15:49
rather than grouping all the various methods in a single object15:49
harikt devosc, have you had a look at https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Web/blob/develop-2/README-REQUEST.md ?15:49
devosc And the object that has the actual value, doesn't have a matching interface method (since it is array access).15:49
pmjones magic property access iirc, but yeah15:50
is that a problem?15:50
devosc It sort of prevents me from using the request object. I'm finding in DI that the 'code' really doesn't need the request object since all its data can be retrieved and injected .. but my poor mans method chain won't work15:51
Even if the respective Param object had the methods, I could maybe target that obj directly and call the method.15:52
pmjones i'm not understanding why a method-chain is a requirement here -- $request->server->get('WHATEVER') is not an option?15:53
harikt yes. I am also wondering the same.15:53
devosc I'm using a config syntax and not runtime php.15:53
new Call('Request.host')15:53
pmjones if i may be so bold, perhaps the problem is that the config syntax is underpowered15:54
harikt devosc, so the new Call should return request->host ?15:55
devosc :) Maybe. But method interfaces are important (and thats why its failing) :)15:55
harikt, yeah15:56
pmjones i agree that interfaces are important for methods, but these are properties :-)15:56
magic ones, to be sure, but still15:56
devosc interface object access doesn't care what the method actually does15:57
pmjones devosc: are you making an indirect feature request here, asking for method-based access to the same propeties?15:57
devosc I'm mentioning ... I'm seeing changes (atleast in my thinking) and DI + Interfaces are important.15:58
pmjones ok, i agree that interfaces are important, for as far as that goes15:58
but stating that does not seem to resolve your problem15:58
sooo ... ?15:58
devosc I'm not looking for immediate resolvement, but I thought it worth mentioning.15:59
pmjones nods15:59
pmjones consider it mentioned15:59
harikt devosc, if you like PR ;)15:59
pmjones for the record, if you want something, ask for it directly :-)15:59
harikt pmjones, will look into it.16:00
Here like me.16:00
Blame Paul is wrong when you think he is wrong.16:00
;)16:00
pmjones :-)16:00
devosc :)16:00
harikt pmjones, great looking at your commit https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Auth/commit/1a64f527775961d764e33ea05450f8dbe177412b16:01
:)16:01
pmjones harikt: I BLAME YOU16:01
harikt I take the responsibility :)16:01
pmjones harikt: we'll see how travis and scrutinizer like it, then i can apply to all the others16:01
harikt why they don't like ?16:02
pmjones i don't know if they do or not -- waiting to see :-)16:03
travis seems ok16:04
oh hey harikt -- let drop the dravid grudl conversation16:04
i can't tell if he's really serious or not16:04
if he is, so much the better16:04
if not, no amount of added conversation will sway him16:04
harikt ok pmjones .16:07
brandonsavage pmjones: Are you an original member of the FIG?16:07
harikt brandonsavage, yes16:07
:)16:07
brandonsavage harikt: No offense, but I think I asked pmjones that question, not you.16:07
pmjones brandonsavage: yes i am16:07
i was in the "smoke filled room" at the start of ti16:07
harikt brandonsavage, I heard Fig foma and food.16:08
brandonsavage pmjones: Aha. So when Crell insists that the room was smoke filled, he isn't lying.16:08
pmjones well, when the myth is flattering, publish the myth ;-)16:08
harikt and I will consider for next time when responding16:08
:)16:08
brandonsavage "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."16:09
pmjones that's what i was looking for16:09
bravo sir16:09
brandonsavage The Man Who SHot Liberty Valance.16:09
pmjones great flick16:09
brandonsavage A corollary to "the victors make the history."16:09
pmjones harikt: all libs converted back to `phpunit -c tests/unit/` instead of `cd tests/unit; ./phpunit.sh`16:17
harikt Thanks pmjones16:21
and you are fast16:21
pmjones thank you for keeping me honest ;-)16:22
brandonsavage What's the advantage of the conversion?16:22
pmjones brandonsavage: short version is that it's easier for windows folks to run the plain old unit tests.16:22
brandonsavage How many hours of work did you do for 0.02% of all Aura users? :-P16:23
pmjones two days ago i started changing to a ./phpunit.sh script to standardize across unit, integration, kernel, bundle, etc testing16:23
brandonsavage: about 20 minutes ;-)16:23
brandonsavage Ah, well, small wins then. ;-)16:23
pmjones but harikt pointed out, i think rightly, that there's no benefit to that, and perhaps even a small drawback16:23
so plain old library level unit tests are back they way they were, albeit in a different directory (tests/unit/ instead of tests/, so we can also have tests/container/ et al in the same tests dir)16:24
brandonsavage nods16:25
brandonsavage I leave it to you to run the unit tests.16:26
I don't bother running them myself.16:26
devosc what about giving the properties a configuration interface :)16:28
pmjones brandonsavage: ha! :-)16:30
devosc: what do you mean?16:30
harikt pmjones, when you have a badge do we need to run unit tests on local system ;)16:31
https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Web#quality16:31
devosc Which object gives me the path from $_SERVER ?16:31
pmjones devosc: which path?16:32
devosc I'm seeing AbstractValues which has a get method that I can work with (chained gets) ..16:32
https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Web/tree/develop-2/src/Request16:32
harikt devosc, https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Web/blob/develop-2/README-REQUEST.md#superglobals16:32
devosc uri path16:32
pmjones devosc: where would you normally find that in $_SERVER?16:32
devosc isn't that the request_uri ?16:32
pmjones so then, $request->server->get('REQUEST_URI')16:33
devosc what pathInfo or similar does16:33
harikt devosc, you should have a look at https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Web#instantiation16:33
Rather than just the api.16:33
read me points to all I guess16:33
if you find something missing please do send a PR or create an issue ;)16:34
devosc I can do $request->get('server')->get('REQUEST_URI') ... since that would new Param('Request.server.REQUEST_URI')16:34
pmjones devosc: there's also https://github.com/auraphp/Aura.Web/blob/develop-2/README-REQUEST.md#url16:34
$request->url->get(PHP_URL_PATH)16:34
devosc I need a chain of method calls16:36
So I would need 'url' to be returned by a get method also.16:36
pmjones nods16:36
pmjones i think __get() may do the trick for you, then16:36
alternatively, you may wish to use a DI system that does not limit you in that way16:37
devosc Actually its the other way around, you'r suggesting that I have a bootstrap to make method calls -- that is exactly what I am trying to avoid and have direct DI :)16:38
pmjones mmm, 6 of one, half-dozen of the other16:39
something has to do the setup work, and that means something is going to be executing code in a bootstrap16:39
devosc its about static and serialization16:39
pmjones shrugs16:39
pmjones whatever floats your boat man16:39
devosc Another way of looking at is, is the configuration is the inversion of control of the DI.16:40
Its potentially faster, and the config interface opens up more possibiliities16:41
pmjones yeah, maybe16:41
good luck with it :-)16:41
devosc Its done :)16:41
pmjones well then :-)16:41
devosc I was trying to integrate with your components :) and couldn't :(16:42
brandonsavage pmjones: BTW, how's the new job?16:42
pmjones devosc: that's too bad. like i said, if you have specific things you want to see, ask for them directly.16:43
devosc I will thanks. What I'm seeing in Aura.DI is there could be few other 'convenient' type functions similar to lazyNew16:45
pmjones nods16:46
pmjones folks, i'm afraid i have to step away16:47
devosc: it's nice to see you here16:47
harikt: sleep well, sir, when that time comes :-)16:47
devosc you too ...16:47
harikt pmjones, thank you.16:47
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harikt will be leaving shortly.16:47
devosc, in case you have trouble please mail to google groups,16:48
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harikt I hope you will find an answer . It is time for me to sleep.16:49
I am leaving. Talk later !16:49
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