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2020-07-25

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Celelibi I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, I'm using libgit2.01:08
I create a new local branch and would like to set the upstream branch. Buuut, there's no remote tracking branch yet.01:10
That's preciely why I would want to set it. So that it's already configured properly.01:11
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rewt Celelibi, when you fetch it should get the remote branches01:15
Celelibi It doesn't exist yet.01:15
I mean, it might not.01:16
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rewt if it doesn't, then how do you want to set it as upstream?01:16
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Celelibi I want to set everything up so that when I push the local branch foo/bar it will push it to the name bar.01:18
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Celelibi Maybe I should rather tinker with the configuration.01:21
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Celelibi Looks like basically, what I need to set is branch.$name.{remote,merge}02:08
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caveman how can i fix a conflict automatically? i did a pull, and now i have conflicts. i want to just be like master. i don't care about my local changes06:02
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rudi_s caveman: Don't use pull if you don't want to pull. If you really don't care about your local changes use `git reset --hard origin/master`, but this will destroy all uncommitted changes in your repository and reset your current branch to the upstrem branch.06:06
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caveman thanks.06:08
what about git pull -X theirs?06:08
oh, i guess pull still adds a new commit.06:09
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rudi_s caveman: pull = fetch + merge06:11
caveman thanks.06:12
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Wafficus Hi there, I have a question. I deployed a GitWeb instance, why is that I can't clone from it though? I'm able to see it from the browser just fine06:17
http://www.git.musimatic.net/06:17
It looks like the "cloneurl" variable is related, but do I have to set this in the /etc/gitweb.conf file to make it so that the general overall site can be cloned?06:18
https://git-scm.com/docs/gitweb06:18
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Wafficus rather, here is a better example, this repo is literally on the site: http://www.git.musimatic.net/?p=TheComplete2019WebDevelopmentBootcamp.git;a=summary06:21
however doing, "git clone http://www.git.musimatic.net/?p=TheComplete2019WebDevelopmentBootcamp.git;a=summary" just returns:06:21
Cloning into '?p=TheComplete2019WebDevelopmentBootcamp'...06:22
fatal: repository 'http://www.git.musimatic.net/?p=TheComplete2019WebDevelopmentBootcamp.git/' not found06:22
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simplicius why can't I update my website?16:23
I get Changes not staged for commit: with the files I want to update16:23
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Wafficus Hi there, can someone help me figure out why my git repo doesn't want to be cloned even though its a public GitWeb repo online17:06
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Wafficus I ask because what's weird is that even if I git clone it as the 'git' user via ssh access on two separate machines, if I do the following command, 'git clone [email@hidden.address] I'm able to get the repo with all of the files locally17:07
yet if I do the same exact command on a separate machine aka a VM inside Windows 10 that contains Devuan (Debian) without systemd, it just clones the repo with empty folders17:07
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rafasc Wafficus: gitweb is just for visualization.17:12
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rafasc If you want to serve git over http you need to configure the http backend17:13
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Wafficus rafasc: if I'm running nginx, how is this configured?17:14
I ask because a lot of the Git book is based in Apache17:14
I'm assuming you mean over "Smart HTTP" https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-on-the-Server-Smart-HTTP17:14
rafasc yes. gitweb is just a readonly visualization thing17:15
Wafficus I thought you could do a "git clone" with it17:15
I didn't know its just readonly though17:15
I see17:15
rafasc it's not readonly even. It's just the website. You cant even clone it.17:16
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Wafficus so I would have to somehow utilize this config right? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6414227/how-to-serve-git-through-http-via-nginx-with-user-password17:17
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rafasc yes.17:18
Wafficus ayayaeeh, this looks dang confusing and I already spent a week trying to get GitWeb up and running though17:19
also, a lot of these variables are already used by GitWeb already in the config, so I'm a bit hesitant to modify it to be honest17:20
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Wafficus do I have to configure this for each and every separate .git repo in the /var/www/git directory?17:24
I ask because basically in /var/www/git is a series of repos already17:24
rafasc of course not, a single http-backend can serve multiple repos.17:26
Wafficus ok17:26
if I share my current .git config17:26
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Wafficus can you possibly help me figure out how to configure it in that case?17:26
I say this because this is a little bit intimidating to be honest17:26
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rafasc Wafficus: have you read the other answer? It pretty much gives you a configuration for gitweb and to serve git over http.17:38
Wafficus I saw but its slightly different than mine17:39
I'm trying to adapt it to my current config though17:39
worst case scenario I have a backup of it17:39
its just this kind of stuff goes above my head really quick for some reason, and I get intimidated super quick17:40
yeah what a nightmare, now with those revisions, I get a 403 forbidden17:42
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rafasc yeah, it can be a bit difficult if you know nothing about it. Take it in small steps, try to understand the systems you are using.17:42
Wafficus its a bad balance of making gitweb work which now it doesn't17:42
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rafasc Asking just for the solutions will probably result in someone calling a help vampire or something like that.17:44
You can definitely have both working at the same time.17:44
Wafficus i'll be honest, I just want it working so I can just pull down configs on the other machine, and its making me sad honestly17:45
I've been at this for a damn week to be honest17:45
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rafasc Well, people are all volunteers on the internet. You can either learn the systems you are working with, or pay someone to do it for you.17:47
Wafficus yeah I hear you17:47
just frustrated17:47
not your fault17:47
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rafasc And most of those issues would be more ontopic for #nginx than #git.17:48
Wafficus I would try there but I've been banned17:48
since they don't like noobs17:48
however, I still don't want to run Apache either so its kind of a rock in a hard place17:49
rafasc I don't know the context of your ban... But it's usually more than just "they don't like noobs".17:49
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Wafficus well, I did ask for clarification a bunch of times17:50
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Wafficus and the stuff they have on their site just isn't as guide-like as I would want it to be17:51
idk, but I get more from guides with configs, than having to read an entire book of system commands, when all I need is just a guide on "How to deploy git with git-http-backend and gitweb" rather than getting just confused with very deep sections of nginx documentation17:51
anyway, its fine, somehow it'll work out17:52
rafasc and I think this isn't the place to discuss your ban there either.17:52
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Wafficus but yeah that 'nginx' channel is cancer17:52
so its not me17:52
right, well you asked about #nginx so that's that17:52
rafasc Wafficus: that's actually a problem. If you blindly following "guides", you're not really learning the tools you are using.17:52
Wafficus some things i like to learn17:53
a lot of this networking or backend stuff is just always over my head17:53
rafasc That ultimately leads to frustration when you want to configure something that isn't in a guide.17:53
Wafficus no matter what I do, idk17:53
I know its me17:53
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Wafficus but that's just how it is for me, i'd rather it to just work17:53
rafasc Wafficus: what I am trying to say to you, is that you're not really learning anything from copying a config from the internet, even if it works and does what you want.17:53
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Wafficus I know, but man, sometimes i just want a git repo to just work, not spend a whole week on it, when I could be doing other cooler projects17:54
its just disappointing honestly17:55
but yeah, don't worry about it, its fine17:55
rafasc Wafficus: that pattern of "is all over my head" is a direct consequence of your approach to learn these things. If you don't care about how the things works, and just want it to work and be done with it, you'll always fall into that place.17:55
It's happens all over the place. In git, it's the "delete and reclone" instead of understanding what happened and learning how to fix.17:56
Wafficus I hear you17:58
I appreciate that sentiment though17:58
so no worries17:58
lets just say I'm not made out to be a networking guy, and I'm glad I understand this now in my lifetime17:58
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rafasc Everyone falls into that trap at some point.18:01
Wafficus you know I will say I did learn something at least18:01
Port 80 runs http protocol lol18:01
rafasc I had similar issues when I was trying to mess with git protocol v2, and didn't want to install apache either.18:01
Wafficus I'm kind of laughing because I guess you're right, since you can only learn from it18:01
I think its my temper man, I just get frustrated super quick, something I'm working on18:02
rafasc I went the lighttpd route.18:02
Wafficus yeah I saw lighttpd18:02
how's that in comparison to nginx and apache?18:02
is it easier to config?18:02
looked lightweight18:02
I just have a hobbyist site on a VPS, so I don't really need anything specially as long as it could display pages with bootstrap styled CSS and JS18:03
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rafasc That's kind of a lie. If that would be true, you wouldn't be configuring gitweb+http-backend.18:04
So you do want more than just a something to show js and css.18:04
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Wafficus I guess you're right18:04
I do also plan on deploying SearX later, as well as a VPN18:05
since I'm a mad man18:05
but yeah why would this be a http-backend issue though if I'm utilizing the 'git' user anyway?18:10
that part still doesn't make sense18:10
I'm not trying to git clone this as some unauthenticated person on the web18:10
I'm literally utilizing the same level of access of the 'git' user on both machines18:10
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rafasc Wafficus: we kinda diverged discussing other things.18:42
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rafasc have you tried login via ssh? instead of clone?18:43
maybe it is resolving that url differently on each machine.18:44
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jim hi... I'm trying to diagnose a problem in someone's git, so I'm having him run: git clone -v (the-url), but there's no output... what's going on, do you think?18:54
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nkuttler jim: output of type git?18:55
jim nkuttler, sec18:56
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jim sorry this is taking so long... trying to get the type git output, but so far we just have two copies of the output of: git19:06
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jim ok, got it: (gited it?) https://termbin.com/szbn19:07
rafasc maybe the terminal is broken?19:08
mx08 Hi. Is it bad to use a bare repository like this? git --git-dir=/path/to/bare-git-repo --work-dir=/path/to/workdir ...19:08
I wonder because it seems bare repos are not meant to have working trees associated with it19:08
jim rafasc, he's sshed into an install of devuan with git and git-man installed, and the devuan itself is in a vm being run under windows19:09
mx08 But there are many tutorials on the web which suggest using that kind of setup for managing dotfiles etc.19:09
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jim mx08, I've never actually tried that :)19:11
dzho same19:11
but I'm interested because I do something that might be considered the opposite: I often set as remotes a repo that has both working and git directories associated with them.19:11
when any given branch is active on the remote, one cannot push to it19:12
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dzho and so the standard recommendation there is not to have a working tree for a remote, but to use just a bare repo19:12
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mx08 makes sense19:13
Speeder_ so, I learned there is gitattribute thing19:13
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mx08 FWIW here is one of the mentioned tutorials: https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/dotfiles19:13
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Speeder_ can I use it to force all files become windows 1252 and windows ending?19:13
dzho mx08: ah, thanks. I was interested in an example but not enough to ask :-)19:14
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rafasc mx08: honestly, I think it's a very bad ideia. One blatant problem is that git can and will delete files that are matched by patterns in the gitignore without asking you first.19:20
mx08 rafasc: most of these setups do something like `echo '*' > .gitignore`19:21
rafasc pointing --work-dir= to your $HOME is scary.19:21
mx08: that means you're saying: git, if you need, delete the files.19:22
because .gitignore was designed to deal with trash/intermediate files left over from compiling.19:22
!gitignore_disposable19:23
gitinfo git treats ignored files as disposable, and might remove them if some operation requires it without warning. See https://public-inbox.org/git/7viq39avay.fsf@alter.siamese.dyndns.org/#t19:23
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mx08 Thanks, didn't know that.19:24
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jim that's unfriendly19:24
rafasc I use git and stow, to manage my dotfiles.19:24
Wafficus mx08: since you're on the topic of dotfiles, I recommend you also look up "GNU Stow" as you can easily distribute dotfiles on another system to deploy them in seconds19:25
rafasc But I don't track the files directly.19:25
Wafficus mx08: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhdO46oqeRw19:25
mx08: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJBVA4LeJKA19:25
mx08: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFzEuBGPPPg19:26
mx08: just wanted to link you up as this is a thing I dealt with a few months ago myself19:26
mx08 Hm, I've heard of GNU stow, however I liked the idea of only requiring git to manage my dotfiles, so that's why I'm investigating that approach.19:26
Wafficus: thanks a lot, looking into it now19:26
Wafficus mx08: yeah it makes it SUPER easy19:26
mx08 jim: did you mean me?19:26
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rafasc mx08: stow isn't necessary, it just makes it easier to deploy.19:27
mx08: you can symbolic link yourself, or even write a script that does it and track it alongside the repo.19:28
Wafficus rafasc: yeah, agreed19:28
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Wafficus literally you can just do stow -t * ~19:28
rafasc I haven't tried it, but a project that seems to be popular for this is: https://github.com/twpayne/chezmoi.19:29
Wafficus rafasc: rather, I agree that Stow is an easier way to do it19:29
saves the headache of having to do all of those manual steps19:29
with stow, you basically setup your dotfiles repo to have the same paths starting from the ~/ "$HOME" directory19:29
rafasc if you have a good backup system, maybe you can just use git as described in those guides.19:30
mx08 rafasc: I've read about that approach. Generally I like to keep things as simple as possible and understand as much as possible, and to use as few "special tools" as possible. That's why using only git sounded very appealing to me.19:30
rafasc But the main problem is that the majority are using git as the backup system..19:30
mx08 I'm on btrfs so I have a good backup system :P19:30
rafasc then use it, but btrfs snapshot regularly.19:31
mx08: the idea is appealing. But as of now, it's just not safe enough. IMO19:32
Some people have mentioned this on the mailing list, attempts have been made to introduce a "precious" concept for files.19:32
mx08 Yes, I'm trying to understand why exactly and currently am reading the ML thread you posted.19:32
rafasc But so far, none was good enough.19:32
jim mx08, no, git removing anything it wasn't specifically told to, is unfriendly19:34
rafasc mx08: when git receives a file from the remote site that doesn't exist locally, if the file is matched by ignore rules, git deletes it. If it doesn't, git aborts.19:34
mx08 jim: ah right, thanks for the clarification19:34
rafasc jim: you are specifically telling git that it can delete the files when you add them to gitignore.19:34
That's the problem. People just don't know what gitignore really is.19:35
mx08 I think gitignore(5) doesn't even mention it19:35
"The purpose of gitignore files is to ensure that certain files not tracked by Git remain untracked."19:35
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rafasc Yes. I agree that it is poorly documented.19:35
jim rafasc, oh... I thought I was only telling git to ignore those files19:37
it basically means I should never have a .gitignore19:37
ikke There are generally two types of ignored files: trashable and precious files19:38
rafasc also, there are other tools that would do nasty things... Like running git clean19:38
nedbat jim: what command deleted the file>19:39
rafasc But that would be more like "user error".19:39
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jim nedbat, hopefully none!19:39
rafasc nedbat: we're discussing dotfile management.19:39
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mx08 rafasc: What do you think about having no .gitignore, but set status.showUntrackedFiles = no ? Are there any obvious (or non-obvious) pitfalls with this approach?19:40
jim ikke, can I say in the gitignore, all files are precious?19:40
rafasc and the popular alias config=git --git-dir=.dotfiles --worktree=$HOME19:40
nedbat rafasc: yes, i'm just wondering, other than "git clean", when might git delete an ignored file?19:40
ikke jim: no, sadly not19:40
jim: gits ignore feature assumes they are tashable19:41
rafasc the way you say that is by having the ignore file empty.19:41
ikke there have been discussions about adding support for precious ignored files, but nothing concrete cam out of that yet19:41
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nedbat i'm trying to understand what risk i am facing :)19:43
jim ikke, do you generally participate in these meetings?19:43
rafasc I've seen ikke respond to mailing lists.19:44
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rafasc jim: I think this was the most recent topic on it: https://public-inbox.org/git/20181111095254.30473-1-pclouds@gmail.com/19:45
jim nedbat, I guess that, when you put files in .gitignore, you are not only telling git to ignore those files, you're also telling git it can delete them19:45
nedbat jim: "can". when? I've never had this happen.19:45
jim me too, so I don't precisely understand how that whole thing works19:45
rafasc https://public-inbox.org/git/4C6A1C5B.4030304@workspacewhiz.com/19:46
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jim rafasc, ikke, if the docs don't say that putting files in .gitignore make them potential targets, they need to. now.19:47
rafasc That's only an example.19:47
nedbat rafasc: that's overwriting the file by merging a branch that has the file tracked. that seems reasonable to me.19:47
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jim yeah, me too19:48
rafasc It really isn't reasonable.19:48
jim so only ignored files that are untracked are potential targets?19:48
rafasc That means I can delete *your* files, but pushing empty files into the repo.19:48
nedbat he wanted the changes from the other branch. The other branch added the file.19:48
rafasc you type git pull, and your files are gone.19:48
That's not sane.19:48
nedbat same is true for tracked files.19:48
jim so, tracked or untracked, ignored files are targets for deletion?19:49
rafasc tracked files have nothing to do with gitignore. !ignore_tracked19:49
gitinfo Git only applies ignore patterns to untracked files. You can't use ignore patterns to ignore changes to files that are already tracked by git. To remove files only from git, but keeping them on disk, use git rm --cached <file>. Still, see https://gist.github.com/1423106 for ways people have worked around the problem.19:49
rafasc jim: and even if it removed tracked files, if they're tracked it would be trivial to recover.19:50
The problem here is that git is allowed to delete something that it isn't able to recover.19:50
jim yeah, you'd basically have a backup in the repo19:51
rafasc And some of the circumstances it happens can be really trick to understand, once you have different gitignores on the index, inside .git/info, globally, etc.19:51
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jim once I tried to do a non-maintainer upload of a debian package, and I removed editor backup files, and as soon as a maint saw that, he said "you shouldn't do that"19:52
(it'19:53
has been more than 15 years ago, so I don't remember his exact words)19:53
rafasc jim: they are tracking stuff like .swp files?19:53
jim I don't know :)19:54
doesn't the documentation you just showed say that tracked files aren't affected by .gitignore?19:55
rafasc anyways, if you recognize the risk, and have backups to cover your back if/when that happens, go ahead.19:55
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rafasc jim: first line of the description19:55
A gitignore file specifies intentionally untracked files that Git should ignore. Files already tracked by Git are not affected; see the NOTES below for details.19:55
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mx08 rafasc: (in case you missed it earlier:) What do you think about having no .gitignore, but set status.showUntrackedFiles = no ? Are there any obvious (or non-obvious) pitfalls with this approach?19:56
rafasc the part where it can nuke files, isn't written in the docs afaik.19:56
jim ok, that's clear19:56
rafasc mx08: status/showUntrackedfiles=no is just a matter of presentation.19:57
it is still being ignored.19:57
sorry, misread.19:57
That would be safer, I think. But the mere fact this problem exists, makes me reluctant to let git touch $HOME.19:58
mx08 Yes.19:58
rafasc mx08: you still have the "clean -fdx" user mistake.19:58
that could wipe your $home.19:58
jim what you seem to be saying, is untracked files in the absense of any .gitignore, can still be "ignored" with all that implies?19:58
rafasc jim: setting status.showUntrackedfiles=no; would remove them from the output of git status. They would not be considered ignored.20:00
For the purposes of the issue we mentioned, or for clean.20:00
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mx08 rafasc: Do you happen to know whether using a *bare* repository together with a work tree (e.g. via `--work-dir=...` can lead to any problems?20:01
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jim ok, so that seems a safe way to go, if a person wanted to be able to control what files got deleted?20:01
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rafasc jim: I'm not sure, as I mentioned, I do not let git touch my $HOME. I have a $HOME/.dotfiles repo, and use stow to deploy symbolic links.20:02
When/if they implement "precious", maybe then, I'll change.20:03
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mx08 As a side note, I think I am much more likely to lose data by doing something like `dd of=/dev/sda` by mistake, or `rm -rf .*`, instead of `git -fdx clean`20:04
ikke guilte as charge20:04
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rafasc I think I've done all of those.20:04
mx08 rafasc: Thank you for all your answers. I appreciate it.20:05
jim so do I20:05
rafasc But the thing is, you'll need another program. Be that stow, or btrfs snapshot. Using git alone isn't very smart.20:06
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jim rafasc, you have to understand, I didn't know that until this moment :)20:07
rafasc sure, I also understand your position. I had the same reaction when I discovered this.20:07
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/a/ac/Heavy_jeers09.wav20:08
jim that was pretty loud :)20:11
who was that, Ahnold?20:11
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Wafficus Yaohhhl20:12
rafasc That's from a character named Heavy from the teamfortress game.20:12
Wafficus Put Tha Cookie Daown20:12
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Celelibi Hm. I see git pull now shows a warning.22:46
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Celelibi Is the old behavior the one I get with pull.ff = only?22:47
(Anyway, that's the one I want. I want finer control when there's something to merge.)22:48
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santosh I am getting a different output with `git describe --tags` than `git tag`23:59

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