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rapha j416: 2>&1 loses you the distinction between info and problem entirely.07:19
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j416 rapha: yes.08:35
rapha: that's why there's stderr and stdout to begin with?08:35
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ikke git uses stderr also for progress output08:37
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hendry i know in some text file in some past revision (since removed) there was a word, "null-ls", how do i search the history and files for that word like a grep?10:15
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selckin git log -S null-ls10:16
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hendry selckin: thank you!10:37
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j416 note that -S searches for commits that added or removed this string, which is a bit different from just grepping the files in each commit12:16
-S will probably give you want you want in this case, but it's useful to know of the distinction12:17
selckin is there an option for the other? seems less useful12:20
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j416 other than looping revisions and running git grep on each, I don't know12:24
(something like git rev-list <rev> | xargs -n1 | git grep <pattern>, maybe with pager off and some better output formatting)12:26
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rapha j416: yes, what ikke says. also it uses it for infos like "fetching this submodule, bro". which is not helpful when you're writing scripts running via cron.12:31
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atrigent can the commit --fixup=amend:<commit> thing be used to change the first line of the commit message?14:17
oh I think I see how it works14:19
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atrigent for the rebase "exec" command, is there a way/idiom to make it ignore the exit status of the command?14:27
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osse You can add ||:14:28
aka. || true14:28
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atrigent thx14:28
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Nei hi, I want to create a new commit which adds some files starting from some point in the history of my project. for a simple case, I could do this with git checkout $somehash; git add/commit; git checkout mybranch; git rebase $newcommit15:41
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Nei but when I try to do this in a complex projects with merges and (previously resolved) merge conflicts it stops on some merge conflicts15:41
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Nei can someone recommend a way to consistently rewrite the history of all those branches and merges and slip in that commit there in the past?15:42
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bookworm why do you want to rebase it in the first place? You could just add the file on top of the history15:46
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selckin Nei: generally no easy way to rewrite history that involves keeping merges15:49
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selckin there are some tools that try, but be prepared to spend a lot of time15:50
Nei :/15:50
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ikke git rebase --rebase-merges :P15:52
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Nei well, even that stops on merge conflicts15:53
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bookworm and that got removed in recent git no?16:40
least there was a patch on the ML16:40
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ikke That was an old deprecated option that got replaced with --rebase-merges16:42
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coder Trying to setup a server for --filter option. The client can get clone but always fail to checkout with the following error20:25
fatal: the remote end hung up unexpectedly20:25
fatal: protocol error: bad pack header20:25
warning: Clone succeeded, but checkout failed.20:25
Anybody has any ideas?20:25
ikke What version is the server?20:26
coder I have tried 2.27.0 and 2.30.020:27
have done these. git config --global uploadpack.allowFilter true20:27
ikke seems like a memory issue20:27
https://confluence.atlassian.com/fishkb/git-indexing-fails-due-to-bad-pack-header-371360062.html20:28
I assume you have a large repo20:28
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coder Very small. My own project with about 1/2 dozen test files, few kb each20:29
ikke hmm, strange20:29
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coder I thought it might have something to do with ssh, go I got gitbucket running. Same problem.20:30
?so I got...20:31
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coder ikke, I tried the above suggestion of setting the mem limits to 100m. Still the same thing20:33
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ikke Yeah, if the repo is small, those settings should not matte20:33
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ikke matter*20:33
coder Just a data point, can run against github.com just fine.20:34
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coder ikke, thank you for the help. Will do more digging around to see if I can find anything.20:37
ikke success20:37
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jast whoops, looks like I was disconnected from libera for >3 weeks without noticing...20:50
ikke heh20:50
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lantech19446 jast: how do you not realize that lol20:51
jast I wasn't on IRC much20:52
or rather, when I was looking at my client I didn't actually think about how unlikely it is that there'd be no activity in the #git window :>20:53
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Smashcat Hi - anyone know how I can just pull from theorigin/master and replace anything on my local copy after already doing a git pull? Ended up with a bunch of conflicts that are impossible to fix. Is it easier to just delete everything and checkout again?22:33
noord Smashcat: did you committed?22:35
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Smashcat Yes I commited locally, so it's all messed up now. Just need to reset it to match the master22:35
rawtaz reset --hard perhaps22:36
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noord do you care changes you do?22:36
check last stable commit id22:36
Smashcat No, I don't want the local changes, as I've made other changes on another machine.22:36
noord then reset --hard <commit-id>22:36
Smashcat I tried reset --hard but that throws an error22:36
rawtaz then act on the error22:36
it's there for a reason22:37
Smashcat Yeah, I think it's easier to just delete it all and clone again. It'll take hours to clean it up :)22:37
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Smashcat The problem was that object/elf/hex files got added to the git repo, so when the software was built on the other machine they were all checked in too, so the conflicts are impossible to fix in that case.22:39
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rawtaz hum22:40
but what error did you get when trying to reset --hard your branch?22:41
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Smashcat Not an error, but after doing that, then git pull afterwards it just downloaded the same updates and created the conflicts again. So it didn't fix anything22:41
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bookworm reset just resets your local repo, it doesn't modify the remote22:42
rawtaz well one would have to look closer at what your actual commit history looks like to tell you what you're doing wrong lol22:42
bookworm fix it up locally, then force push22:42
(after warning whomever else is on the team that you did so)22:43
rawtaz ^that :)22:43
Smashcat Yeah, I wouldn't want to push updates from an older version. It would overwrite all the other updates :)22:43
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Smashcat Whenever I've had this problem previously I've just deleted the local repo and cloned again to fix it. I have a fast connection normally, so downloading a few GBs is no problem. But my main internet is down tonight, so downloading from my phone hotspot will take a few hours :)22:45
bookworm that's just stupid22:45
noord thats why vcs invented22:46
bookworm https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_2x.png22:46
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Smashcat Quickest way usually.22:46
bookworm no22:46
the quickest way would be for you to learn git22:47
Smashcat Haha, that's exactly what I do :)22:47
bookworm learn how your tools work22:47
Smashcat My main internet connection is 800Mb/sec - it takes like 30 seconds to re-download. Going through 10 files to fix conflicts would take much longer.22:48
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rawtaz Smashcat: ill have you know, that while git can seem like a little hurdle ti get over before you start understanding the commands and what to do a bit more, it's very rewarding to just take a little time to read up on what to do when you encounter a problem :)22:48
it takes a few seconds, but it doesnt make you know how to use your tool :P22:48
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noord Smashcat: it seems you have more than one problem, why some add binaries into source22:50
Smashcat rawtaz: It's only me that works on my repos - so any conflicts are an error on my part, usually when I do work on my laptop/desktop. So I just delete whichever is the oldest version and clone again :) I have trried hard resets etc in the past, and it always ends up a complete mess anyway :)22:50
bookworm typing my alias for "pristine fresh new clone" (aka git nuke) takes me approximately 1/100 of that time22:50
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rawtaz Smashcat: you told us that several times now. and thats wrong. learn your shit, or stop trying to be a real developer..22:50
bookworm including the "are you sure" prompt22:50
Smashcat I am I real developer :) I just don't really spend much time with git except push and pull.22:51
rawtaz you arent a real dev if you dont even know how to use git at its very basics. but whatever22:51
bookworm and that's not a good thing you should be proud of22:51
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rawtaz i dont have a problem with that part, what i have a problem with is that you dont seem to care the least about wanting to do it right. thats a pity22:51
bookworm it means you are lacking expertise necessary for your work22:52
rawtaz but thats just my two cents, and it doesnt matter to you :)22:52
Smashcat rawtaz: Well, I get paid a six figure salary for my work, which is in some pretty well known companies - so kind of am a real developer - haha!22:52
rawtaz Smashcat: salary is not a measure of developer quality :)22:52
bookworm apparently the hiring process is lacking as well ;P22:52
noord It is about messing simple git operation22:52
Smashcat rawtaz: You've never seen my code, and you're insulting me. If my code was bad, people wouldn't keep hiring me back to work for them.22:53
My code has nothing to do with how I use git though.22:53
bookworm To be honest, having the ability to quickly prototype stuff and roll back will really make your own life easier, so it's actually the lazy way22:53
rawtaz Smashcat: anyway heres the bottom line; people here are suggesting you learn a bit more about git, and it would indeed be good for your work and your skills if you did take the arguably little time it takes. so its just a word of advice. use it or not, thats up to you of course!22:53
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rawtaz Smashcat: i never once talked about your code22:53
Smashcat: have a nice day, im putting you on ignore now so you dont have to hear my ramblings :)22:54
Smashcat rawtaz: Probably the reason I've never spent any time learning git, aside from clone/push/pull is that I spend almost all my time using svn, which I know pretty well.22:54
bookworm bet on the wrong horse ;P22:54
Smashcat You have a nice day too.22:54
bookworm svn is a mess too22:55
Smashcat bookworm: Clients use it. I just check in code there.22:55
bookworm there's a reason it fell out of favor22:55
Smashcat <Shrug> It's always worked fine for me.22:56
rawtaz i actually know people who still use svn and think it works fine :D22:56
of course it does work for them, but they dont know how much better it can be i guess22:56
bookworm ^^22:56
the hg/dark people want to have a word too22:56
or whatitsname?22:57
darcs*22:57
noord Smashcat: how do you release and version your software? what kind of branching strategy do you use?22:57
Smashcat noord: That's handled by the client. My work doesn't need branching - I mainly work on event installations (OpenGL/WebGL, games, interations, robotics, custom electronics, and FPGA designs).22:59
noord how you find a bug in source without binary search on log?22:59
Smashcat Some of my installations have been running for years, but most only run for a few weeks.23:00
noord: A versioning system isn't a debugging tool :)23:00
ZacSharp and you can always do a manual binary search23:00
good tools with good methods23:01
Smashcat it is not a debugging tool, but knowing in which change a bug was introduced is useful information23:01
Smashcat I use the compiler/debugger/simulator/ERC/DRC for finding bugs or errors in designs.23:02
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Smashcat ZacSharp: A versioning tool won't help at all with that. I do know how to check out an earlier version of the code if I need to, but that's pretty rare,23:04
ZacSharp I did not tell you to replace your debugger with git (however that should work)23:05
Smashcat noord asked how I found bugs in my source without it. Then you jumped in :)23:06
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noord Smashcat: it is better take time to learn basics of git.23:10
and RTFM is normal thing on irc23:10
showing off not23:10
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noord do you have another question?23:11
Smashcat For some people I guess. It's not something I enjoy though, and probably won't make me any more productive.23:11
No, I'm just waiting for the clone to finish now. It's pretty slow on my phone though - haha!23:11
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Smashcat That xkcd commit has got me intrigued though. I wonder how many others do the same as me to "fix" conflicts with git. Might try a reddit thread about it.23:14
s/commit/comic23:14
bookworm too many sadly23:20
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noord bookworm: why they insist on using git?23:20
bookworm everyone else is using it23:21
ZacSharp and if you know what you are doing it's great23:21
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bookworm granted, git has some UX problems, but it's also not *that* complicated... least the basics (modifying history, commits etc)23:22
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bookworm if you drop to the plumbing commands it's a different story23:23
DoofusCanadensis what, delete the repo and clone again?23:23
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DoofusCanadensis yeah, I used to do that when I first started with Git23:23
Smashcat I don't think I've ever worked in a team where people enjoyed using the VCS (mostly SVN in my case). It was just an annoyance that had to be dealt with. I like to code/designhardware. the VCS is just a necessary evil I want to use as little as possible. Preferably just to push/pull code, as a kind of backup.23:23
bookworm that's the "my vcs isn't actually working" mindset23:23
git actually workd23:23
works*23:24
it was designed explicitly because other VCS weren't working for the kernel23:24
Smashcat It does what I need it to, same as any VCS, but I don't want to use it more than once a day. Usually to back up my work at the end of the day. That's all it needs to do for me.23:24
rawtaz wonders how the balance between git and hg has developed over the last five or so years - are they still about the same market share each or has hg declined in use?23:25
Smashcat A LOT of people I work with use it the same way.23:25
rawtaz heads over to google to know23:25
bookworm and you do your horse riding any way you please, godspeed. For everyone else there's the automobile23:25
DoofusCanadensis hg has declined a LOT23:25
bitbucket started life as a hg host... I don't think they support it anymore23:25
java moved their source from hg to git23:26
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rawtaz i see. i dont see that much of a decline on google trends though. just a slow trend downwards: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=SE&q=git,hg,mercurial23:27
bur yeah might not be the best search terms :D23:27
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DoofusCanadensis could be lots of "how do I migrate from hg to git"23:27
rawtaz hehe23:28
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noord bookworm: why does everyone treat git as centralized vcs?23:32
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apo _Smashcat: urgh, you're reminding me of a coworker whose SVN history is just weeks and weeks of commits with the comment "daily backup"23:34
rawtaz :D23:34
oh i hate bad commit msgs23:34
_Smashcat apo: Haha, I do actually document the changes I made for each day.23:34
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rawtaz nooo! stop trying to evade my sophisticated ignore list23:35
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_Smashcat I got DC'd! My phone hotspot isn't doing well cloning this repo :)23:36
ZacSharp if you know how to check out specific commits you know how to reset as well23:37
if you insist on recloning that's deserved I'd say23:37
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_Smashcat ZacSharp: I just know when I clone it's exactly in sync, and I don't have to mess about with anything afterwards.23:38
rawtaz this guy really dont get it23:39
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rawtaz _Smashcat: do you realize that you can get that stuff easily 100% in sync without cloning the repo anew?23:40
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rawtaz or are you simply not understanding this simple fact?23:40
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_Smashcat Well, is the alternative a single command, as easy as "git clone..." ?23:41
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ZacSharp "git pull ..." and your branch is synced, unless you have worked on both ends23:42
noord git pull is shorter If it is your point23:42
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ZacSharp git fetch and then git reset and you have discarded all local changes23:43
_Smashcat ZacSharp: Yes, the problem is when I work on both my laptop and PC and push from the laptop. Then there are conflicts. That's not something git pull fixes.23:43
noord thats why you shouldn't commit binary files23:43
_Smashcat I have to commit binary files. I also have PCB designs and production files versioned.23:44
bookworm you only have conflicts if you modify the same code parts... and no VCS can spare you from resolving it manually23:44
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_Smashcat (and FPGA designs for that matter)23:44
bookworm the choices git gives you is either their side or your side or a merge23:44
simply tell git which one you want23:45
for binary stuff a merge is out of the question, so pick a side23:45
_Smashcat bookworm: cloning is quicker than trying to resolve lots of conflicts when I don't want any local changes kept though.23:45
bookworm considering your reclone strategy that means theirs23:45
it's really not23:45
git reset --hard origin/master23:46
_Smashcat What's the one-liner then23:46
bookworm done23:46
add afetch obviously23:46
_Smashcat bookworm: No, that doesn't do it on its own23:46
bookworm it does23:46
_Smashcat That's two lines23:46
...and a pull afterwards23:46
bookworm no, it's one23:46
DoofusCanadensis don't need to pull if you reset to origin/master23:46
bookworm gir fetch && git reset--hard @{u}23:47
see? single line23:47
DoofusCanadensis considering that pull is git fetch + git merge (or rebase if you've configured it as such)23:47
rawtaz _Smashcat: that is completely irrelevant. is the answer yes or no?23:47
_Smashcat That's cheating, you just used the shell to combine two different statements :)23:47
bookworm so?23:47
ZacSharp you don't need to pull after resetting23:47
and how is rm -rf . and git clone one command?23:48
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bookworm ^ that23:48
_Smashcat I clone to a new directory :)23:48
mannequin dangerous commands pasted23:48
don't do that23:48
bookworm so still cd .. and git clone23:48
DoofusCanadensis no, cd ..; rm -rf <project>; git clone <project>23:48
_Smashcat So you wouldn't cd before your two commands? hmmmm23:49
mannequin use a file manager like mc to delete directories recursively23:49
bookworm mannequin: nothing is dangerous about that, grow up23:49
mannequin rmfr is dangerous, grow up23:49
ZacSharp it is dangerous to delete . recursively23:49
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mannequin use a file manager to do that23:49
bookworm your shell is a file manager love23:49
DoofusCanadensis why would I use a file manager when I'm already on the cli?23:49
mannequin mc will do23:49
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mannequin yeah and shell has history23:50
bookworm if you don't see your working directory in your PS1 you're doing it wrong23:50
mannequin don't never, ever do that23:50
use a file manager23:50
instead23:50
bookworm no23:50
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mannequin your choice23:50
bookworm I can handle my shell, thanks for your input23:50
mannequin that's russian rulette23:50
DoofusCanadensis consider too, that git clone is effectively "mkdir <project>; cd <project>; git init; git remote add origin <url>; git fetch; git checkout"23:51
_Smashcat I'm going to deliberately push from my laptop and desktop to see if "git fetch --all" then "git reset --hard" are the only two commands needed...23:51
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bookworm --all is only useful if you have multiple remotes, chamces are you don't23:52
considering that you barely manage a single remote23:52
ZacSharp and the reset needs to know what to reset to23:52
just as bookworm said gir fetch && git reset--hard @{u} are the two you need23:53
_Smashcat I've just compiled a random piece of code on the laptop, and just pushed. Now I'll make some local changes and commit, then try to push (usually what happens when I forget I pushed from the laptop)23:53
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bookworm fetch fetches the remote, reset will nuke your changes to be the same as the remote23:53
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bookworm it's as simple as that, you *will* loose work23:54
noord haha23:54
_Smashcat Ok cool, now I have lovely conflicts after I attemtped to push, then pulled . Same as usual. Now I'll try the two commands.23:54
bookworm or at leat you need to hunt for it in the reflog23:54
why do you pull?23:54
in which of my instructions did I say pull?23:54
you don't want to pull23:54
pull is fetch && merge23:54
(by default)23:55
rawtaz never pulls23:55
ZacSharp not even if its a ff merge?23:55
rawtaz its too magic for me :)23:55
no. i always fetch if i need to get updates and merge with --ff-only unless i need something else23:55
DoofusCanadensis I always fetch, but after review I might pull23:55
bookworm you want "state of the remote" that's not a merge _Smashcat23:55
rawtaz i guess i just want to be in control :o23:55
_Smashcat Ok, so did "git fetch --all", then "git reset --hard". Now have "Your branch is behind 'origin/main' by 3 commits, and can be fast-forwarded.(use "git pull"...) So that's 3 commands :)23:55
DoofusCanadensis no23:56
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DoofusCanadensis you were supposed to git reset --hard origin/main23:56
bookworm _Smashcat: missing target, you reset to HEAD23:56
DoofusCanadensis ^23:56
_Smashcat Yeah see, this is how you start down the rabbit hole23:56
bookworm literally, `git fetch && git reset --hard @{u}`23:57
there's no rabbit hole, you've been spoonfed the command now 4 times23:57
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rawtaz bookworm: is @{u} representing the remote tracking branch?23:58
_Smashcat I thought that @[u] was a typo :) Not exactly obvious is it?23:58
ZacSharp @{u}23:58
you used [] instead of {}23:58
rawtaz _Smashcat: noone would accidentally type @{u}23:58
bookworm you can use origin/master but I don't know what your branch nor ypur remote is called23:59
it can be work/main for all I know23:59
ZacSharp so it's easier to just use @{u}, which is the remote tracking branch if your repo is set up properly23:59
bookworm hence @{u} which always means the remote tracking branch23:59
ZacSharp and since git clone does that part of the setup it should really be23:59
bookworm ^23:59

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