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2023-06-21

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wakaflaka hi. is there a way to enable passwords again? so confused about this ssh key stuff01:40
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wakaflaka (1. generated a new pair, 2. added the public key to github, 3. ssh -T [email@hidden.address] You've successfully authenticated, but GitHub does not provide shell access., 4. git push still asks for a pasword and if i dont give it one it will also fail)01:43
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parsnip what do you say to a group that is defening plagiarism with, "well git best practice is don't rebase"02:28
*defending02:28
or rather, "claiming authorship", etc02:28
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parsnip "applying arbitrary licenses"02:28
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parsnip meanwhile other github users are forking and force pushing main to select points on the tree that they find to their benefit02:31
and so if i comment on this, the first group exclaims, "i hear you don't like forks!", but the irony is lost on them02:32
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parsnip i guess git documentation does not so much say to never force push. rather, it has details about how to deal with it02:39
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EdFletcher i mean "well git best practice is don't rebase" is just objectively false, rebase is a very powerful tool. and indeed force-push is too, when used properly and responsibly. "with great power comes great responsbility" and all that jazz02:53
in fact, we recently got an incredible feature that makes rebase - and specifically the stacked-branch workflow it enables - even more powerful, `--update-refs`02:54
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jast parsnip: life pro tip, don't argue with people who refuse to change their minds anyway03:25
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weedmic I have setup a git server. I created a few files, added, committed, and pushed them to the server. I see on the server with git-log that the hashes match. everyting is good for me.07:51
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lericson good to hear07:56
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weedmic my first user, who can connect via ssh (tested), does the following command "git clone [email@hidden.address] but is returned "fatal: 'project.git' does not appear to be a git repository - fatal: could not read from remote repository". remot and local both have ...project.git directory and the user is "in" that folder when he executes the clone command and previously "git init" was run in that folder.08:13
I know the remote reposity is working b/c I can checkout old and new files etc.08:14
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osse Is project.git in the git user's home directory on the server08:15
?08:15
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weedmic no, it is in /srv/git/project.git08:23
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osse then you must git [email@hidden.address]08:25
weedmic git (user) has only basic tree for new user plus .ssh08:25
wilco - ty08:25
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weedmic worked - appreciated - next phase, get the documents to open in a browser08:33
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weedmic is there a help page on how to get md (markdown) files to open in a browser.08:50
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OMGOMG markdown is text, you want to use a text editor. or you need something that converts it to html08:56
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wyre do I need something special to move a subtree to a folder? or just git mv will do the work?09:03
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weedmic we discussed it, we're just going to switch over to html.09:55
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thebbb when "illegal" data was pushed into master, then it was removed by reset --soft old, fixing files, push --force, then how to make sure git repository purged all the old data (gc and all?)10:49
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osse thebbb: what host?10:50
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thebbb just git gc --prune=all ?10:50
osse: own server, serving over ssh10:51
just git gc --prune=all - in all local copies of that repository, and on the server inside the /srv/git/..../ ?10:51
osse yeah that should do te trick10:52
also make sure reflog is disabled (it is by default), or else use git reflog expire --expire=now10:52
thebbb ok10:52
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nona weedmic: for future reference: pandoc does a really good job at md -> html11:01
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weedmic ty, i finished and used https://markdowntohtml.com/ (only saw one mistake)11:12
nona^11:13
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weedmic I have now switched to html. I am trying to make a black rectangluar area with pastings from bash (code box). Here are my style.css and document.html with some explanations. https://pastebin.pl/view/0a87bb8611:19
any ideas - links would be great.11:20
sorry, wrong chat11:20
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nona oh, well, shoulda guessed there's websites for that, too :)11:21
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nona anyways, i like writing docs in markdown and having pandoc somewhere in a Makefile or similar place11:21
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weedmic couldnt get it work in markdown AND no one could open the documents in firefox - so we voted to switch to html this morning.11:22
I did have black with white letters in md though, but not a rectangle11:23
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thebbb weedmic: for md documentation, people usually just open it in "notepad". but indeed then links, images, would be not working. one could use some convereter locally, so you tell users to git clone / git pull and then some ./generate-docs.sh and then open resulting doc/ in firefox. google "generating html from md" I guess11:59
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weedmic thebbb: your sentence was a bit beyond my english. I have no problem editing md files. we had an issue that they would not open in firefox, so we switched to html which has been completed already.12:03
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geirha Yeah, I don't think any browsers support markdown without installing a plugin for it, so you generally convert it to html for viewing it in a browser12:17
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weedmic i am basically done, but I don't understand why my html document doesn't read the style.css, so I just put the style inside the document. i'm trying to figure it out in the #html kammer.12:39
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__monty__ I have a string of commits that change a file. Instead of changing that file, I'd like to introduce a copy of the file and then have the commits apply to that copy instead. Can I achieve this with a rename commit and then copying from there to the original name?12:48
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geirha I think git filter-branch can do that, but I've never used it myself13:03
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geirha and some quick googling suggests git filter-repo is better13:05
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weedmic __monty__: why not checkout the version of the file you do not want to put the commits to, change it's name (termporarily), apply the commits to the file you want and then rename it. the rename the temporary file back to it's original name. be aware I'm very new to git.13:10
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__monty__ weedmic: I think the later commits will apply to the file before renaming, no?13:13
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weedmic don't know enough13:20
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ross __monty__: have you considered 1. move the file with the changes to a new location 2. checkout the old version of the file without changes13:55
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ross `mv file.txt file-new.txt`, `git checkout OLD_COMMIT_REF -- file.txt`13:56
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ross the history would not be as clean as you initially wanted (i.e. "I copied this file then changed the copy"), it would be "I changed this file then added a new file that's identical to what that file was before", but the end result is the same13:58
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__monty__ That's what I have now. But I'd like a cleaner history for review.14:01
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__monty__ I was just hoping I could avoid manually rewriting the history so that later cherry-picks wouldn't break.14:04
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ross if you wanted to rewrite the history of what happened to that file and its copy, you would have to rewrite history14:05
__monty__ Maybe filter-repo can help doing this but I'm not sure I can figure it out.14:06
Yes, but if I add a rename commit and then base everything on that. Then splice in a commit so the rename was just a copy. I *think* I would get close to what I'm after?14:06
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ross if that works (which it might! I have no idea), you would still be rewriting history if that's something you were looking to avoid14:07
roughly how many commits are we talking about?14:08
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__monty__ No, I definitely need to rewrite the history. I'm just hoping there's a way to do it that won't make further cherry-picks horribly confusing.14:09
ross if we're talking like, 3, you could checkout the repo before any changes to that file and then `git checkout REF -- file.txt > file.txt && git commit` for each REF in the list of commits14:09
sorry - `git checkout REF -- file.txt > file-copy.txt && git commit`14:10
you could maybe even do `git rebease --interactive` and add an `exec` step between each step that does something like that14:11
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ross I would class that as horribly confusing, though - why is it important that you have a 'clean history' here?14:11
__monty__ It's about 120 commits.14:12
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__monty__ It's a large change so I want to split it up to make it reviewable. But we can't very well merge partial changes because that leaves a non-functional state.14:13
So I want to transform changes to files into basically developing a sub-hierarchy alongside that we can then swap for the originals at the very end.14:14
ross ah ok! so the end goal is to have just a single file with all of the changes, but in the meantime, you want to show your review versions of that file from various points in the development process?14:14
s/review/reviewer14:15
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__monty__ Yes, though this is about files strewn around a directory structure. And there'll probably be many reviewers involved.14:16
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ross __monty__: instead of polluting the branch's history with copies of files, I would share with reviewers a list of references to those files at those points in history14:39
you mention wanting to keep a clean history but this feels like intentionally dirtying your history14:40
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__monty__ The problem is that these things need to get merged one-by-one.14:40
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__monty__ And that can't be done while they touch the original files. But they *can* be useful if they live alongside.14:41
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ross then create branches at various points along the history (e.g. branch1 at 10 commits in, branch2 at 20 commits in, etc) and create a pull request for each one14:42
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__monty__ And how would they be merged without putting the repo in a broken state?14:43
Well, the code, not the actual git repo.14:44
ross you just said you need to merge these partial file changes one by one, no?14:44
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__monty__ Yes, to make them reviewable. But the partial changes can't be done to the original files. Those need to remain unaltered until everything's in place to be switched out.14:45
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ross ok, then merge these partial changes one-by-one into a staging branch, and then when all the reviews are cleared, merge that into the main branch14:46
__monty__ Unfortunately, I don't see that workflow working in this case. And like I said. The copies won't just be inert copies hanging out in the repo. They'd be immediately usable.14:49
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ross why doesn't that workflow work in this case?14:49
if the copies are immediately usable, why does merging them result in a broken codebase?14:49
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__monty__ They're usable alongside the originals. Not replacing them because there's a whole hierarchy of dependencies.14:50
And a separate branch doesn't work because that'll leave a similar amount of integration work when it finally does become time to switch over. Resulting in another huge review.14:51
ross so you are creating copies of this file as a sort of version control system for that file?14:51
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ross you would not have to review the entirety of the staging branch merge because each part of it would already have been reviewed14:52
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__monty__ No, it's a package, with lots of dependencies. I'm working to change that package. But it requires a ton of changes throughout the tree. However, if introduced alongside it'd be immediately usable. (Mostly in a technical sense, I'm not sure anyone would want to.)14:53
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ross I'm terribly sorry, it seems that I don't really understand what you're looking to achieve, and I'm not sure that I'm going to be able to14:57
but I wish you the best of luck with it regardless14:57
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__monty__ Np, thank you for trying. I might be misguided but I've been thinking about this for a while and I haven't managed to figure out a better way. That's why I figured I'd ask, maybe someone sees right through the nonsense and can tell me how I'm missing something obvious.15:01
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selckin you've only described your solution, not what the problem is15:04
__monty__ My last comment but one describes the problem as succinctly as I can.15:05
selckin not really15:06
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node1 Can anyone suggest tools and methods for structuring and plotting building projects, similar to the diagrams used in AWS infrastructure documentation?15:08
__monty__ Not sure I should bother people with the specifics. It's about stdenv changes in Nixpkgs.15:09
node1 Constructing a project roadmap including git management also incorporating costs and other pertinent aspects?15:11
selckin draw.io15:12
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node1 Specifically, I'm looking for a method that encompasses creating a project roadmap, integrating Git management, and incorporating costs and other relevant factors.15:16
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