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2013-03-11

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andoma morning07:19
andoma back from skitrip07:20
bow^znc did it include actual skiing? :)07:23
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whyz morning07:31
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andoma bow: yes, quite a lot actually07:34
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bow nice, I suppose heh07:40
JackWinter all relaxed and set to finish the dvb rewrite then :)07:43
i don't have so much time right now, but at times i want to start digging in the code again, not sure if to start or not with big changes being made to the same code simultaneously07:44
andoma JackWinter: yeah07:46
though this week we're gonna move tvheadend to it's own domain (tvheadend.org)07:46
that will probably take some precious hours07:46
JackWinter ah, that's cool!07:51
i have been asked to do more diseqc work, and i also want to see how one could improve on scanning/mapping and managing a large amount of muxes/services in general07:52
at least i have a working dvb card back, so that helps alot :)07:53
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andoma JackWinter: yeah, that's a good start i suppose :)08:00
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andoma now also on v6!08:16
tvheadend.org has IPv6 address 2a01:1b0:7999:402::5508:16
Glandos \o/08:21
telnet tvheadend.org 8008:23
Trying 2a01:1b0:7999:402::55...08:23
Trying 83.137.145.55...08:23
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused08:23
:)08:23
andoma yeah it's not that well configured yet :)08:24
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adamsutton andoma: you got it all sorted then, what's the plan for migration?09:33
andoma adamsutton: not sure yet09:34
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adamsutton ok, np. anything I can do to help let me know09:40
andoma adamsutton: step #1 is to respond to my privmsg i suppose09:40
adamsutton I just saw it ;)09:41
emailing you right now09:41
done09:41
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linuxstb gets inspired to register pidvbip.org in the hope that someone apart from himself will use it09:45
sb1066 is waiting for android to run on rpi so I he can use TVHGuide09:47
andyb2000 linuxstb: i played about with pidvbip and liked :) been doing a few tweaks to code myself, to support other remotes, tidy the output to screen, etc, nothing amazing but its looking pretty decent to me09:50
oh one thing i wanted to ask (Since this is the 'official' irc help chan for pidvbip obviously!) I'm not getting any osd channel information, just the channel name, should i see program information/synopsis?09:51
adamsutton I thought the first rough cut was cool, but I'm kinda tied to XBMC09:52
andyb2000 well i thought i was, but then thought about my 'overall' plan of all tv's having a tvh client and thought for the kids bedrooms it might be ideal09:52
you might have a few years to wait to worry about that ;)09:53
adamsutton indeed09:54
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andyb2000 i'd still have xbmc on the majority, but for the couple of smaller sets that literally would be fixed (almost) to tiny pop, cbeebies, cbbc, etc, it would be ideal09:55
adamsutton yeah, I can see that09:56
andyb2000 btw, found another series-linked recording that was missed, but again didn't get a chance to grab the epg data before it was too late :( the entry was still sat in the automatic recorder tab, correct name, etc, it just didn't add it to the upcoming recordings09:58
and again it was the last show in the current series, so i'm starting to get a pattern09:59
linuxstb andyb2000: Regarding the EPG, my guess is that you haven't reset your epgdb.v2 in a long time. pidvbip doesn't have a proper events database yet, I simply have a huge array indexed by the event ID. So if your IDs are > 3000000 they will be ignored.10:01
andyb2000 ah thats a potential, ta i'll give that a go tonight and see if it populates then10:02
linuxstb Or just try increasing that number (near the top of events.c) to something bigger - RAM shouldn't be a problem. 3000000 means approx 12MB (it's an array of pointers), so you can probably double or triple it without problems.10:03
andyb2000 oh okay, that might be a quicker one to test out then as i only really get to kill the tvh daemon at weekends or certain times. ta for that :)10:03
linuxstb Or implement a proper database structure for the events ;)10:04
andyb2000 haha, thought you'd seen my c code, obviously not ;)10:04
linuxstb Can't be that much worse than mine.10:04
andyb2000 yours works, mine makes adam pull his hair out :D10:05
linuxstb I perhaps take the adage "release early, release often" a bit too far and push any old rubbish.10:05
Yes, I've seen adam's picture...10:06
What changes did you make regarding remotes?10:07
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linuxstb andyb2000: Also, if you didn't notice, I committed the change to parse (S1, Ep9) from the opentv EPG. I don't know if that will require you to delete the epgdb.v2 for it to take effect, or if tvh will update the events10:08
You can tell if it's worked, because pidvbip will display the season/ep number on the OSD10:08
(if you get the latest version)10:09
andyb2000 ah i hadn't seen that, will grab that and give it all a go10:09
for remotes, I have an HP MCE remote that sends its numbers as remote codes, so I was adding those into the case switch you'd setup10:10
was actually wondering about adding in a config loader type function so tweaks like that could be moved to user10:10
adamsutton linuxstb: with git master are your mux info problems gone?10:10
linuxstb adamsutton: You mean duplicate/missing data?10:10
adamsutton yeah10:10
well, at least the dups10:11
missing data could be something else entirely10:11
linuxstb I'm not 100% sure. I think so, but I'll try a clean reconfigure again later.10:11
andyb2000: Yes, I want to add a proper config file (and a "global settings" struct in pidvbip), so any PR in that area would be very welcome.10:13
andyb2000: If you start any work on it, let me know, so I don't. Or were you thinking something specific to remotes?10:13
andyb2000 linuxstb: wasn't sure tbh as there were a couple of tweaks i thought could be offloaded to a config-based system, remotes being a key one, hadn't thought of what config method to use though have you or open to suggestions?10:14
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linuxstb I was just thinking of a simple text file with "key=value" lines. These could then be overridden with command-line options of the same name. e.g. Have "host=192.168.1.10" in the config file, overridden with "--host=192.168.1.11" on the command-line.10:16
dickon Tsk. Make it more 'Enterprise'y and make it XML.10:17
linuxstb No.10:17
andyb2000 that should be straight forward to read in then parse with str = val structure10:17
urgh, xml10:17
dickon As a friend of mine tweeted the other day: turn all data into Big Data by converting it to XML.10:17
linuxstb uses XML a lot in his work, and likes it, but not everywhere...10:17
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linuxstb XML is good for metadata, not so good for data.10:18
dickon IMHO it's a solution looking very, very hard for a problem.10:19
andyb2000 first thing i want to do is get my pi build env working though, hate developing on the thing itself! so will get that up and running and give it a bit of a go linuxstb10:19
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linuxstb andyb2000: OK, great. Have you noticed any problems with channel changing?10:23
andyb2000 the only one i had was sometimes the number input closes before you have time to finish keying the numbers (easily tweaked), but the tv stream itself changed on demand correctly, you had probs?10:24
linuxstb Untill very recently, yes. Channel changing wasn't reliable and pidvbip would fail to correctly change channel. But I think that's now fixed (apart from mpmc, who runs a slightly patched version), so good to know it's fine for you.10:26
I've also been playing with trying to make channel changing faster, but haven't pushed anything yet.10:27
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andyb2000 ah ok, no i'd not noticed any problems with change. initial startup showing "syncing" was slow and the occasional channel switch slow but nothing too worrying10:28
linuxstb Yes, the "syncing' is download the entire EPG.10:29
Faster that xbmc I would hope though ;)10:29
andyb2000 i'd not dug into it tbh but guessed that was it. well xbmc now does very fast loading since it just does changes so difficult to compare for me10:29
but i guess thats building up the array you mentioned earlier?10:29
oh actually, one thing i thought of was a STOP function. i.e. stop streaming but don't exit the program. for a pi thats perm left switched on10:30
linuxstb Yes, I want that - a "standby" mode, which pidvbip could possibly enter when first run.10:31
And possiblt keep the tvh connection open during standby, to keep the EPG etc up to date without needing the full sync again.10:31
andyb2000 yep that would be ideal, also an option when you're watching tv to choose the "standby" mode too when done watching, just so you don't end up keeping a tvh tuner when you're not watching10:35
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linuxstb andyb2000: Do you mean automatically (e.g. a "sleep timer"), or simply an "enter standby" button?10:50
andyb2000 enter standby button i think would do it, never seen the point in sleep timers!10:58
just something so when i'm done watching i press the power button on my mce remote and the pi unsubscribes from current channel to free the tuner on tvh10:58
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xhaggi @adamsutton: you there?10:59
adamsutton on and off10:59
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xhaggi latest git version don't work with my adapter .. graceperiod error11:00
adamsutton git rev?11:00
xhaggi no input in xbmc11:01
current master11:01
SrX_ oh, thats happens to me too11:01
xhaggi i'm not at home now11:01
adamsutton which revision?11:01
xhaggi so i can't re-check it11:01
adamsutton current = non-existant11:01
xhaggi 819b8c839411:02
last commit11:02
where is found the rev ;)11:02
where i found ..11:02
SrX_ version from yesterday11:02
xhaggi latest git rev11:02
;)11:02
adamsutton xhaggi: debug log?11:03
SrX_: there as a bug in stuff I submitted friday, it was only fixed yday evening.11:03
xhaggi in debug log it only writes "grace period expired" after subscribing a channel11:03
adamsutton xhaggi: does 271165a4c54d05f0f4dcdea6c50efff012715467 work?11:03
xhaggi sorry i'm not at home11:04
adamsutton sorry, I meant a0a7539a731c6e84b8e0a3a95b1c1655a12515c711:04
xhaggi: try that commit( when you can) if that works let me know11:04
xhaggi i only checked 14a470efd1da1f9a5c7fd1ae0df8718d4da49ef811:04
this works11:04
i will check which commit cause the problem later when i'm home okay?11:05
SrX_ adamsutton: It's possible. I have got the sources in the yesterday morning ;)11:05
adamsutton between 55ed28cb53307f77c7c767cd6f87f56b15951bcd and 271165a4c54d05f0f4dcdea6c50efff012715467 stuff won't work11:06
xhaggi let you know if this is the cause ;) .. bye see u later11:07
have to work for now11:07
SrX_ let me try the last version11:15
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mpmc linuxstb: What does this mean? [EVENT] OMX.broadcom.video_decode 0x19cd4e0 has errored: 80001000 :p12:14
dickon OMX_ErrorInsufficientResources.12:19
mpmc I only have pidvbip running lol12:19
dickon It means a component needs more buffers; in this case the video decoder. Odd, though.12:20
mpmc Well, I'm trying to work out the optimal usleep time to stop the popping & still allow error free channel changing :p12:22
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mpmc linuxstb: I've been testing a different values for usleep & so far the best value seems to be 150000 :) tested it by going through all my channels & not once has it failed to display a picture.12:39
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opdenkamp ugh! using usleep is so meeh12:45
mpmc opdenkamp: What would you use? :p12:46
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opdenkamp there must be something better available than depending on some guessed usleep value :)12:47
andoma yes12:48
that seems fragile12:48
like next rpi firmware upgrade it might fail or so12:48
adamsutton opdenkamp: the more I look at this supposed pi tvh proxy, the more I think that the real fix there is equiv to usleep(X) ;)12:48
opdenkamp adamsutton: no no no! :) and dom is looking into it now :)12:49
i won't have a damn usleep there :)12:49
adamsutton opdenkamp: that's not what I said :p12:49
take a deep breath and read again ;)12:49
opdenkamp lol. yes, the proxy itself is just a big bloaty usleep12:50
adamsutton yes12:50
which works for some people where X is carefully tuned to their setups12:50
;)12:51
opdenkamp: who is dom? (forgive ignorance)12:51
opdenkamp bet it'll go oom when using a value > 10 secs :P12:51
dom = popcornmix = broadcom pi guy ;-)12:52
adamsutton ah, ok12:52
I know popcornmix, I was wondering if it was him12:52
"know of"12:52
opdenkamp :)12:52
adamsutton great12:52
if you (or he) wants the patch I have from gimli that stops/reduces the stop/start buffernig let me know12:53
opdenkamp mail it and i'll forward it to him12:53
adamsutton I think the other main thing I changed was setup of message Qs, the problem is omxplayer does the "right" thing in this respect but it unfortunately leads to a stray PAUSE or START (forget which) on startup. Which causes the logs to look really weird12:54
opdenkamp yes, and what i've been saying for a while, players must be paused, and not touch buffers until they're filled. then start playing, and it should be exactly the same as any other stream then. and the 1088 is fine too, cause of 16x16 blocks12:56
adamsutton yeah I understand that now :)12:56
mpmc tvh master is broken right now, right?12:57
adamsutton I'm not sure the fix I have from gimli fixes the main problem (in fact I know it doesn't) but I think it stops the oscillation in and out of pvr-buffering at startup12:57
mpmc: it shouldn't be :( but xhaggi suggested it was12:57
opdenkamp if it doesn't work after that, then i suspect something is flushing the buffers before starting to play12:57
adamsutton opdenkamp: I see all sorts of weird situations in the xbmc a/v status overlay. often it appears to have filled the buffers but then not playing anything from them. In other cases I think you can see its clearly not filling the buffers12:58
but this is from memory, problem is I never have time to do any proper testing12:59
mpmc adamsutton: I've stopped updating as often now as something always breaks in master :p13:00
opdenkamp not filling buffers sounds like something is flushing13:00
adamsutton that's the idea ;)13:00
mpmc: ^^13:00
mpmc: I broke everything horribly on Friday and then ran away. I thought I'd fixed it Sunday evening (my sys is fine now - I think). But there might be some other issue I've not yet seen.13:01
mpmc adamsutton: Yeah I noticed some people complaining :p13:02
Oh dear! My Pi has locked up while running pidvbip after getting a DTS discontinuity /pulls plug.13:04
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andreasb- im experiencing the same problems as xhaggi13:06
adamsutton a debug log would be a good start13:06
andreasb- using 3.5.52~g819b8c813:07
http://pastebin.com/HjY7vC0w13:07
hope that is sufficient13:07
line 22 show the same error as xhaggi13:07
adamsutton andreasb-: this is the problem line, "Unable to configure demuxer "/dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0" for all PIDs -- Success", I'll have alook13:09
andreasb- :)13:10
adamsutton andreasb-: try this, http://pastebin.com/fSe36HM013:11
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adamsutton not sure that will necessarily fix things, but it'd be something to check. Given that strerror() is returning "Success"13:13
might have to check some of the other ioctl calls13:13
andreasb- im not familiar with how to do that. can you explain? :)13:17
(patching that is)13:17
adamsutton curl "http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fSe36HM0" > t.patch13:20
add missing EOL to file (i.e. add a blank line)13:20
git apply t.patch13:20
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andreasb- Mar 11 14:25:06 [ ERROR]:dvb: "_dev_dvb_adapter1_Sundtek_DVB_C290000000_006c" unable to configure demuxer "/dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0" for pid 1745 -- Success13:25
lots of other pids as well13:26
adamsutton hold on13:27
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andreasb- yep13:32
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adamsutton oops, I pissed off pastebin :)13:35
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adamsutton andreasb-: find "if(ioctl(fd, DMX_SET_PES_FILTER, &dmx_param))" in src/dvb/dvb_input_filtered.c and change to "if(ioctl(fd, DMX_SET_PES_FILTER, &dmx_param) == -1)"13:36
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andreasb- ok. should i keep the previous patch?13:41
when keeping the previous patch in addition to if(ioctl(fd, DMX_SET_PES_FILTER, &dmx_param) == -1), i still get the same error13:43
brb13:43
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adamsutton andreasb-: yes you should keep both patches, though I don't understand (unless you have multiple adapters) why you'd need both13:57
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andreasb- ok. i got 3 tuners14:02
adamsutton andreasb-: can you pastebin git diff output, just so I can see what you've got14:02
andreasb- http://pastebin.com/dq8ksvGa14:05
adamsutton that's what I'd intended, and you're still getting errors?14:06
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andreasb- yeah14:07
BtbN latest git master is working fine for me, except for the auto mux discovery which is gone mad14:07
andreasb- let me double check14:07
BtbN http://bpaste.net/show/O5DbTjXwOgJzrx5bxsPh/14:08
mpmc What exactly is the problem with master? No input?14:10
adamsutton BtbN: odd that that has only just started.. the mods were suppose to make things better not worse :(14:10
obvious bug excepted ofc ;)14:10
BtbN No idea when this started14:11
andreasb- i still get the same errors14:11
BtbN my provider recently renamed the network14:11
andreasb- ERROR]:dvb: "_dev_dvb_adapter1_Sundtek_DVB_C272000000_0095" unable to configure demuxer "/dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0" for pid 2401 -- Success14:11
adamsutton BtbN: is that DVB-C?14:11
BtbN yep14:11
adamsutton do you have ONID specified in adapter config?14:11
BtbN nope14:12
adamsutton that'll probably be the problem14:12
BtbN what should i add there?14:12
adamsutton I think they often carry ALL the diff network info in the NIT and this causes confusion in TVH because of the current mux addressing14:12
because TVH only identifies by freq/pol/satconf atm14:13
BtbN in the Mux list each mux has a diffrent network ID14:13
adamsutton BtbN: you need to find the network ID of you're provided and stick it in the o-NID box14:13
hmm14:13
didn't think that was possible with current code14:14
BtbN i set the onid to 9999, which seems to be the correct one14:15
at least it stopped to rename it14:15
yeah, 9999 seems to work ok. I deleted all muxes and added one manualy, and all the others re-appeared propperly14:17
even the ones with a diffrent NetworkID14:17
hm14:21
but some channels are missing now14:21
very strange, seems like they are realy using multiple networks now14:21
andreasb- adamsutton: it might work now. looks like i had some hardware problems when i tried the last time14:25
SrX_ last version of tvheadend works fine :)14:28
anyone know why tvhguide (android) don't work with latest tvheadend versions?14:29
BtbN adamsutton: yep, there are two networks... "Unitymedia UPG NRW" with ID 9999 and "HZN Kerpen" with ID 4323514:30
no idea which is the right one oO14:30
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adamsutton BtbN: hopefully when andoma is finished with DVB rewrite we'll sort all this out14:33
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BtbN adamsutton: Is it possible to kill a dead connection that is blocking the tuner without restarting tvh?14:48
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mablae_ adamsutton, There is some faulty code on cwc.c15:20
When using it, tvh freezes far more often15:20
adamsutton mablae_: hmm, I've not seen any problems myself, but I'm not all that familiar with the cwc code.15:21
mablae_ just FYI15:21
you're contributer15:21
tvh was more stable last week15:21
I am using github master15:21
how to debug proper?15:22
To help finding the leaks?15:22
For me it just freezes15:22
No errors15:22
BTW: Thanks for all the work15:23
I have to tunnel tvh through gdb, right, adamsutton ?15:23
adamsutton mablae_: running in gdb will definitely be beneficial for debugging stuff. When you say it freezes, you mean it totally locks up, no logging at all?15:24
mablae_ Exactly15:24
Since about a week15:24
Not sure which commit caused it15:25
It is only sometimes on CWC code...15:25
When fetching new ECM15:25
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mablae_ When disabling cwc it doesn't freeze15:26
another question: how to get rid of "Channel not enabled - skipping" ?15:27
iE How to enable such channels?15:28
andyb20001 hm, got to admit my cwc seems to be running fine here, pulled from git on Friday morning, when it hangs could it be because the cwc is unresponsive in your setup?15:30
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mablae_ ...maybe15:33
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highzeth SrX_: tvguide works with latest tvh here16:55
shop sells me a quattro lnb, sends me a quad. *slowclap*16:58
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linuxstb highzeth: Not helpful...17:10
andyb20001 goes to read about quattro vs quad17:10
adamsutton andyb20001: quattro is pre-configured to have Hi/Lo Horiz/Vert on 4 inputs to a multi switch17:12
the multi-switch then simply maps input to output on normal request from tuner17:13
it's the way to go if you need to serve more than 4 tuners, because its much simpler than adding more LNBs....17:13
andyb20001 ah right, yeah had just found a doc on it too. ta :)17:14
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adamsutton there are some multi-switches that will do the same thing with a quad LNB, but they have to actively control the LNBs into the right settings etc...17:15
linuxstb IIUC, a quad is a quattro with a built-in multiswitch.17:15
adamsutton no17:15
a quad = 4 seperately controllable LNBs17:15
quattro = 4 pre-configured inputs to the 4 quadrants of the SAT freq, they can only be used with a multi-switch17:16
linuxstb adamsutton: That's what "quattro + multiswitch" is.17:16
adamsutton yeah, but a "quad LNB" is not that17:16
linuxstb So how does it work internally?17:17
adamsutton what a quad LNB?17:17
linuxstb Yes (well, and quattro).17:18
adamsutton a quattro has 4 outputs High/Horiz, High/Vert, Low/Horiz, Low/Vert, which are fed to a multiswitch17:19
linuxstb I thought a quattro was the simpliest type of LNB, as it just separates the bands/polarisations into the four outputs.17:19
adamsutton the multi-switch then accepts requests like a normal LNB and maps 1 of 4 inputs to the requesting outptu17:19
yes17:19
linuxstb A quad LNB must do that, but then allow the receiver to select - i.e. incorporate a multiswitch.17:19
adamsutton ah, I see what you mean17:20
BtbN even a single universal LNB has a builtin multiswitch17:20
quattro LNBs don't have one17:20
but you can use a quad lnb like a quattro one17:20
adamsutton I guess I'd assumed a slightly different internal setup17:20
linuxstb BtbN: Yes, if the multiswitch supports it. But I don't think I've seen one which does.17:21
adamsutton I assumed the filtering was actually done independently for each output, but on second thoughts taht would be a bit daft :)17:21
linuxstb: there are some, I was looking online for one yesterday, though most seem to be discontinued17:22
BtbN I still prefer DVB-C over DVB-S17:22
adamsutton Still prefer DVB-S over DVB-C17:22
BtbN i can just buy a simple amplifier and feed an unlimited number of tuners from just a single wire17:22
adamsutton where do I plug the cable in ;)17:22
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highzeth some multiswitches are real picky when it comes to quad vs quattro, my switches only work 100% with quattro. I get many of the channels using a quad, but not close to 60% of them17:28
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linuxstb I would have expected you to just get 25% of them. But yes, they're generally designed only for quattros17:29
highzeth I did a test last year, it was well above 50% at least hehe17:30
xhaggi adamsutton: can you please tell me the commit which you tell me at the morning17:32
linuxstb xhaggi: http://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/hts?date=2013-03-1117:41
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xhaggi thx17:45
;)17:45
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linuxstb adamsutton: BTW, I was in the same situation as you - mini-dish with quad LNB, wanting more feeds. So I changed the quad LNB for a quattro (using a 40mm to minidish adapter), and bought a multiswitch. This is apparently not ideal (mini-dish LNBs are elliptical), but it works for me.19:26
I also added a second minidish (with quattro) for Astra 19E19:26
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linuxstb adamsutton: This is the multiswitch I used in Spain - http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p29_Chess---PMSE-Multiswitch-9-8--2-Satellites-8-Receivers-.html (I used a 9/16 in London). Plus this quattro - http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p2229_Chess-Edition3-Quattro-LNB-0-1dB-HDTV-Gold-Plugs.html19:36
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mpmc Ha, dvbshop.net JackWinter1's store of choice =D19:43
linuxstb I thought that was somewhere else.19:51
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mpmc Nope, its dvbshop he has issues with,.19:55
had*19:56
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jwh adamsutton: ping?20:51
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linuxstb enjoys the latest Raspberry Pi demo app - 1080p video playback rendered onto the surface of a rotating teapot23:02
adamsutton useful!23:05
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linuxstb adamsutton: I'm sure it is, I just can't think of a use...23:08
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jwh kicks adamsutton23:18
adamsutton what?23:19
jwh pm :P23:20
adamsutton ta, I'll try and take a look tomorrow23:23
jwh <323:23
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