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moony
| How do i asyncronously get input? | 00:22 |
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| from stdin | 00:22 |
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timotimo
| you can get a supply from $*IN.lines.Supply, but it seems like it only really gets started once the first line has come through, which i'd say is probably a bug | 00:24 |
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| supplies can be used with react/whenever and supply/whenever | 00:26 |
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| maybe mystery solved | 00:34 |
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| perfect | 00:35 |
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| moony: run this code: | 00:35 |
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| perl6 -e 'react { whenever Supply.from-list($*IN.lines, scheduler => $*SCHEDULER) { say "got a line: $_"; LAST { say "oh!"; done } }; whenever Supply.interval(1) { say "beep" } }' | 00:35 |
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timotimo
| we don't have a .Channel method on List nor Seq? | 00:41 |
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moony
| timotimo, thanks | 00:42 |
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timotimo
| oh that was meant for the dev channel | 00:42 |
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moony
| glad i wasn't far in, refactoring to use that new thing i've never seen before (:P) wasn't hard | 00:42 |
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timotimo
| you can do it many different ways, of course | 00:43 |
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| you could have a little "service worker", too | 00:43 |
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| my Channel $incoming-lines; my $worker = start { for $*IN.lines { $incoming-lines.send($_) } }; ... | 00:43 |
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moony
| How often does the default scheduler check? | 00:50 |
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timotimo
| how do you mean? | 00:51 |
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| getting the lines from $*IN is actually a sync operation and the default scheduler will allocate a thread for you to handle the work | 00:52 |
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| so it'll immediately react whenever a line comes in | 00:52 |
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| on the other hand, a full thread will be tied up | 00:52 |
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SmokeMachine
| m: react whatever $*IN.Supply { .say } | 01:43 |
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| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «=== SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>Unexpected block in infix position (missing statement control word before the expression?)at <tmp>:1------> react whatever $*IN.Supply ⏏ { .say }  expecting any of: infix…» | 01:43 |
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SmokeMachine
| m: react whenever $*IN.Supply { .say } | 01:43 |
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| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «»Wann treffen wir drei wieder zusamm?« »Um die siebente Stund‘, am Brückendamm.« »Am Mittelpfeiler.« »Ich lösche die Flamm.« »Ich mit« »Ich komme vom Norden her.« »Und ich vom Süden.…» | 01:43 |
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buggable
| New CPAN upload: Game-Markov-0.1.6.tar.gz by HOLYGHOST http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Game::Markov:cpan:HOLYGHOST | 02:42 |
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guifa
| So I was refactoring some code and have been getting a really weird and I have no idea what's causing it and can't seem to recreate it in any other file (gremlins....) | 04:02 |
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| my Array[Str] %definitions{Str} = ("foo"=> Array[Str].new(<foo bar>)); | 04:02 |
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| Type check failed in assignment to %definitions; expected Array[Str] but got Array[Str].new("foo", "... | 04:02 |
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moony
| What would be a good way to convert a Blob to a list of 16 bit integers (Joining together bytes in the process) | 04:03 |
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| nvm, figured it out | 04:18 |
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| m: use NativeCall; class A is repr('CStruct') { has uint32 $.a }; sub err { my $e = CArray[Pointer[A]].new; $e[0] = Pointer; return $e; }; sub b ($c, $d, $e = err) { say "$c/$d/$e" }; b(1, 2); | 04:53 |
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| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Use of uninitialized value of type NativeCall::Types::Pointer in string context.Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.1/2/ in method Str at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-2/share/perl6/sources…» | 04:53 |
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Xliff
| m: use NativeCall; class A is repr('CStruct') { has uint32 $.a }; sub err { my $e = CArray[Pointer[A]].new; $e[0] = Pointer[A]; return $e; }; sub b ($c, $d, $e = err) { say "$c/$d/$e" }; b(1, 2); | 04:53 |
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| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Use of uninitialized value of type NativeCall::Types::Pointer[A] in string context.Methods .^name, .perl, .gist, or .say can be used to stringify it to something meaningful.1/2/ in method Str at /home/camelia/rakudo-m-inst-2/share/perl6/sour…» | 04:53 |
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Xliff
| m: use NativeCall; class A is repr('CStruct') { has uint32 $.a }; sub err { my $e = CArray[Pointer[A]].new; $e[0] = Pointer[A]; $e; }; sub b ($c, $d, $e = err) { say "$c/$d"; say $e.defined ?? $e.gist !! 'NO E' }; b(1, 2); | 04:55 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «1/2NativeCall::Types::CArray[NativeCall::Types::Pointer[A]].new» | 04:55 |
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SmokeMachine
| m: module Bla {}; our &Bla::qqq = sub {}; say Bla::.keys | 05:20 |
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camelia
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SmokeMachine
| How can I do that if I down know at compile time the name of de module neither the name of the sub? | 05:21 |
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| m: module Bla {}; ::("&Bla::qqq") = sub {}; say Bla::.keys # this doesn't work... :( | 05:22 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «No such symbol '&Bla::qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:22 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla {}; ::("&Bla::qqq") = sub {}; say ::('Bla::').keys | 05:24 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «No such symbol '&Bla::qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:24 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla {}; ::("Bla::&qqq") = sub {}; say ::('Bla::').keys | 05:24 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «No such symbol 'Bla::&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:24 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { }; }; say ::('Bla::').keys | 05:24 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «(0)» | 05:24 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { }; }; say ::('Bla')::.keys | 05:24 |
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camelia
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { 1; }; }; say ::('Bla')::.keys | 05:24 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «()» | 05:24 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::.keys | 05:25 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «()» | 05:25 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say Bla::.keys | 05:25 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «(EXPORT)» | 05:25 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say Bla::EXPORT::.keys | 05:25 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «(ALL DEFAULT)» | 05:25 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say Bla::EXPORT::ALL::.keys | 05:25 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «(&qqq)» | 05:25 |
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Xliff
| SmokeMachine: ^^^ | 05:25 |
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| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say ::('Bla::').keys | 05:26 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «(0)» | 05:26 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say ::('Bla')::.keys | 05:26 |
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camelia
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say ::('Bla')::EXPORT::ALL.keys | 05:26 |
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camelia
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq is export { 1; }; }; say ::('Bla')::EXPORT::ALL::.keys | 05:27 |
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camelia
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SmokeMachine
| Yes, but I don’t want to export that... | 05:27 |
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Xliff
| OK. Then I won't be of much help until after I take a nap, unfortunately. | 05:27 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «()» | 05:28 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { 1; }; }; Bla::qqq.say say Bla::.keys | 05:28 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «=== SORRY!=== Error while compiling <tmp>Two terms in a rowat <tmp>:1------> le Bla { sub qqq { 1; }; }; Bla::qqq.say ⏏ say Bla::.keys  expecting any of: infix infix stopper statement end …» | 05:28 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:28 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Could not find symbol '&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:28 |
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SmokeMachine
| I want to make a `my` sub be accessible as `Module::sub` | 05:28 |
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Xliff
| SmokeMachine: My best guess at that is to make a custom EXPORT sub and export it as that symbol. | 05:29 |
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Xliff
| Ala: sub EXPORT { %( 'Bla::qqq' => &qqq ); } | 05:30 |
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SmokeMachine
| Xliff: yes, I’m trying to do that inside of a custom EXPORT... | 05:30 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub EXPORT { %( 'Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:30 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Could not find symbol '&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:30 |
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SmokeMachine
| That didn’t work for me... | 05:30 |
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Xliff
| m: package Bla { sub EXPORT { %( 'Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:30 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Could not find symbol '&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:30 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { ... }; sub EXPORT { %( 'Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:31 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Could not find symbol '&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:31 |
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Xliff
| m: module Bla { sub qqq { ... }; sub EXPORT { %( 'Bla::qqq' => &Bla::qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:31 |
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camelia
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| m: module Bla { sub qqq { ... }; sub EXPORT { %( 'Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::.keys | 05:32 |
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camelia
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| m: module Bla { sub qqq { ... }; sub EXPORT { %( '&Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::.keys | 05:32 |
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camelia
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| m: module Bla { sub qqq { ... }; sub EXPORT { %( '&Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:32 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Could not find symbol '&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:32 |
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SmokeMachine
| Xliff: it’s not running the EXPORT sub... | 05:32 |
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Xliff
| m: package Bla { sub qqq { ... }; sub EXPORT { %( '&Bla::qqq' => &qqq ) }; sub qqq { 1; }; }; say Bla::qqq; say Bla::.keys | 05:33 |
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camelia
| rakudo-moar 7b0c5364f: OUTPUT: «Could not find symbol '&qqq' in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1» | 05:33 |
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Xliff
| Yeah. I think that needs to come outside of the module. I have examples. | 05:33 |
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| Somewhere. | 05:33 |
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| SmokeMachine: ping me tomorrow. I will be conscious enough to help, then. Sorry. | 05:33 |
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SmokeMachine
| m: module Bla { sub bla is export {} }; import Bla; say bla | 05:34 |
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camelia
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SmokeMachine
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camelia
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SmokeMachine
| m: module Bla {}; ‘our &Bla::qqq = sub {}’.EVAL; say Bla::.keys # Xliff: not the way I’d like... but it’s working! | 05:44 |
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camelia
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releasable6
| El_Che, I cannot recognize this command. See wiki for some examples: https://github.com/perl6/whateverable/wiki/Releasable | 10:22 |
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El_Che
| releasable6: status | 10:22 |
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releasable6
| El_Che, Next release will happen when it's ready. 0 blockers. 492 out of 516 commits logged | 10:22 |
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| El_Che, Details: https://gist.github.com/c7557573b74ab330d8166242a19745aa | 10:22 |
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xinming
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timotimo
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xinming
| SeqWhat about Seq then? | 10:32 |
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timotimo
| short for Sequence | 10:32 |
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xinming
| I'm trying to understand how they are related. | 10:32 |
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| Will trouble here later. | 10:32 |
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| I thought they are all "list" thing, and "array" is variable. After I dive in to it, I found it's more complex than I thought. | 10:33 |
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| xinming: a List is an immutable list of value, a Slip is a List that slips into outer container, an Array is a List that is mutable. All three of these are Positional and their elements can be accessed with `[...]` subscripts willy-nilly. They're also Iterable, meaning you can do stuff like `for the-thing { .say }` and iterate over their individual elements. `Seq` is a sequential list of items. It is NOT a | 11:16 |
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| `@-`sigilled variables: it's simply a shortcut to typecheck for Positional. It's not an "array variable"; Arrays is just what you get by default if you try to assign to it, but you can bind (:=) any Positional type to it ( https://perl6advent.wordpress.com/2017/12/02/#positionlly ) | 11:16 |
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| hi, moritz! i was going to ask a question but i found the answer. i’ll probably ask another before too long | 12:36 |
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| but since you’re here, what do you think of using coding style of explicit references to defining the .ast value for a grammar match. made and make are confusing to me and i would like to do something like “$/<some-tok>.ast := ‘foo’” | 12:40 |
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| tbrowder___: I'd use assignment instead of binding (unless there's a really good reason), but I don't see any problem with that | 12:42 |
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| though I don't see the confusion either. make(foo) is just $/.ast = foo | 12:42 |
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tbrowder___
| um, i did the binding because it’s in nqp. so what if i used that style in rakudo nqp. would that cause some heartburn? | 12:43 |
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| and the confusion for me is i guess i have too many years of make meaning just one thing | 12:45 |
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| oh, you're talking about NQP. Then binding is correct, yes | 12:46 |
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| it just doesn’t stand out to me so naturally yet, but it’s coming albeit slowly | 12:46 |
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| ¦ doc: Pragmas ain't modules | 13:05 |
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| ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/c67f94b586 | 13:05 |
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| ¦ doc: dd6f5a1ade | (Zoffix Znet)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 | 14:36 |
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| ¦ doc: Document "SAP" can be verbified | 14:36 |
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| ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/dd6f5a1ade | 14:36 |
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| libclang bindings for Perl 6 # https://pasteboard.co/HKoSPio.png | 14:40 |
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| https://travis-ci.org/azawawi/p6-libclang/jobs/447102638#L631 # strange 'MoarVM panic: Internal error: Unwound entire stack and missed handler' on older rakudos. Was it fixed recently? | 14:41 |
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| New CPAN upload: Libclang-0.1.0.tar.gz by AZAWAWI http://modules.perl6.org/dist/Libclang:cpan:AZAWAWI | 14:42 |
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| Type check failed in binding to parameter '$error'; expected NativeCall::Types::CArray[NativeCall::Types::Pointer[GTK::Compat::Types::GError]] but got NativeCall::Types::CArray[NativeCall::Types::Pointer[GTK::Compat::Types::GError]].new | 15:08 |
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| ^^ Why is that an error | 15:08 |
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| Xliff: possibly a yesterday-fixed Rakudo bug | 15:20 |
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Xliff
| OK. I will brew. Thanks!? | 15:20 |
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| Zoffix: Unfortunately not. | 15:33 |
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| Type check failed in binding to parameter '$error'; expected NativeCall::Types::CArray[NativeCall::Types::Pointer] but got NativeCall::Types::CArray[NativeCall::Types::Pointer[GTK::Compat::Types::GError]] (NativeCall::Types::CArray[NativeCall::Types::Pointer[GTK::Compat::Types::GError]].new) | 15:33 |
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| in method add_objects_from_string at /home/cbwood/Projects/p6-GtkPlus/lib/GTK/Builder.pm6 (GTK::Builder) line 301 | 15:33 |
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| Xliff: the error looks different now... and shows different types, doesn't it? | 15:34 |
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Xliff
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| Ah, good! Changing back to original is passing the type check and now doing what I intended. | 15:36 |
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| looks like jvm on travis no longer builds/tests properly for about a week | 17:14 |
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| seems like the makefile is broken | 17:14 |
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| or that the prove command doesn't work like `make test` on jvm for some reason | 17:17 |
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| ¦ ecosystem: fb6826308e | (Kane Valentine)++ (committed by Zoffix Znet) | META.list | 17:26 |
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| ¦ ecosystem: Add API::Discord to ecosystem (#406) | 17:26 |
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| ¦ ecosystem: * Add API::Discord to ecosystem | 17:26 |
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| ¦ ecosystem: https://github.com/kawaiiforums/p6-api-discord | 17:26 |
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| ¦ ecosystem: * Update META.list with correct github org upstream | 17:26 |
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| ¦ doc: f02c4fe326 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Type/Attribute.pod6 | 17:44 |
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| ¦ doc: .pl6 → .p6, per #2419 | 17:44 |
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| ¦ doc: 656c8a9f72 | (JJ Merelo)++ | doc/Language/variables.pod6 | 17:44 |
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| ¦ doc: .pl → .p6, per #2419 and reflow | 17:44 |
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| ¦ doc: Eliminates reference to .pm, closes #2419 | 17:44 |
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| ¦ doc: 21a9ec4167 | Coke++ | doc/Language/glossary.pod6 | 18:30 |
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| ¦ doc: pass finicky inks test | 18:30 |
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| ¦ doc: | 18:30 |
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| ¦ doc: Also, use self referential link where possible | 18:30 |
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ugexe
| are future perl6 implementations able to be 6.d and 6.e compliant but not 6.c? | 18:39 |
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moritz
| we don't know what future things will be able to or not | 18:40 |
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| 16:49Z <Zoffix> moritz: any idea how to fix https://github.com/moritz/perl6-all-modules/issues/2 ? That repo is very useful for coredev | 18:40 |
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| i dont mean is it technically feasible -- i mean can something call itself perl6 if it only passes say 6.d spec tests but not stuff changed from 6.c | 18:42 |
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moritz
| I don't see why it shouldn't | 18:43 |
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ugexe
| im trying to determine if `perl` meta data field will suffice as-is | 18:43 |
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El_Che
| isn't that the whole point of versioning the lang? | 18:43 |
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| version the language, or version the spec. there is gray area here | 18:44 |
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jmerelo
| moritz: I just got the contract from Apress for "Perl 6 quick syntax reference". Thanks for introducing us! | 18:56 |
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El_Che
| jmerelo: congrats! | 18:56 |
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moritz
| jmerelo: that's great to hear. My pleasure! | 18:57 |
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El_Che
| moritz++ | 18:57 |
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jmerelo
| El_Che: thanks. I still have to write it, though. | 18:57 |
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El_Che
| you will :) | 18:57 |
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moritz
| you know how to do that, right? :-) | 18:58 |
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El_Che
| a Perl syntax reference | 18:58 |
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jmerelo
| moritz: I guess I should... | 18:58 |
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El_Che
| I hope you're payed by the page: ) | 18:58 |
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jmerelo
| El_Che: still haven't read the contract, to be sincere. I got it on Friday night, while I was out. I'll have to check it out thoroughly. | 18:59 |
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moritz
| the apress contracts do contain a minimal page count, and are staggered by page count | 18:59 |
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jmerelo
| I'm happy anyway there's going to be another Perl 6 book coming soon :-) | 19:00 |
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| Or I should rather say soonish | 19:01 |
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moritz
| jmerelo: pro tip: the Apress template limits code examples to 63 characters per line. It's best to be aware of that while writing the code examples | 19:01 |
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jmerelo
| moritz: Thanks! I already have a test set up for my old book, which can easily be configured for any number of characters :-) | 19:02 |
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moritz
| :se colorcolumns=63 | 19:02 |
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jmerelo
| moritz: speak emacs! :-) Don't be EVIL! :-) | 19:02 |
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| moritz: but yes, I guess that can easily be set up. | 19:03 |
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ugexe
| or maybe a better question: how should one obtain the minimum version of 6.* provided by an implementation? | 19:21 |
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| $*PERL.compiler.version or whatever gives the max version provided for instance | 19:22 |
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| ( i know technically its not the max version depending on where it is called, but it can be used that way ) | 19:23 |
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| re: https://design.perl6.org/S22.html#perl | 19:34 |
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| Zoffix: ↑ questions about language versioning | 19:34 |
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| I dunno, just some method on $*PERL? | 19:47 |
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| $*PERL.version => default version; $*PERL.can-versions => list of Version objects for language versions the compiler can do | 19:47 |
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| c: HEAD use MONKEY; augment class Perl { method can-versions { use nqp; nqp::getcomp('perl6').can_language_versions.map: {Version.new: $_} } }; $*PERL.can-versions.say | 19:51 |
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| Zoffix, ¦HEAD(d28545d): «(v6.c v6.d v6.d.PREVIEW)» | 19:51 |
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| c: HEAD use MONKEY; augment class Perl { method can-versions { use nqp; set nqp::getcomp('perl6').can_language_versions.map: {Version.new: $_} } }; dd $*PERL.can-versions | 19:52 |
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| Zoffix, ¦HEAD(d28545d): «Set.new(v6.c,v6.d.PREVIEW,v6.d)» | 19:52 |
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Zoffix
| m: $*PERL.version.say | 19:52 |
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| rakudo-moar d28545d64: OUTPUT: «v6.d» | 19:52 |
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Zoffix
| Oh yeah :) | 19:52 |
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ugexe
| that should work, since `v6.d cmp v6.d.PREVIEW == More` | 19:54 |
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| Zoffix: a github bot complained about this commit, because it contains a twitter API key: https://github.com/moritz/perl6-all-modules/commit/8fe00b3659d1ccb38a58aa909c3fc783c2fa7b6f#diff-a80ddd7a0544aa0509a65605a7966daeR51 | 20:34 |
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| Zoffix: I hope that's just an example, right? :D | 20:35 |
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Zoffix
| haha... I think so. They do look like something you get by banging on your keyboard :P | 20:36 |
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| hehe, yeah, I just took real keys and modified a bunch of letters in them :) | 20:37 |
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| weekly: bleed users can help test rakudo with 6.d language enabled by default: https://twitter.com/zoffix/status/1056274104855248896 | 20:40 |
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| ugexe: I think I fixed it: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/f81146ae9b5de621c1b99719aeaff06b872b6027 | 21:00 |
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| it does indeed fix `make install` locally | 21:00 |
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| will have to wait for travis to crunch through the thing to really know | 21:00 |
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| ugexe: also, fwiw, it's better to create a new ticket for these things, my backlogging is somewhat limited | 21:02 |
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| why do we have these as “Allowed Failures” anyway? | 21:02 |
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Zoffix
| IIRC cause full run times out (it takes more than 10m limit) | 21:03 |
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| aahhhhhh… eh | 21:03 |
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| ¦ doc: ad8b2ac40a | (Michal Jurosz)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) | doc/Language/faq.pod6 | 21:21 |
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| ¦ doc: Learning Perl 6 already published | 21:21 |
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| ¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/ad8b2ac40a | 21:21 |
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| El_Che: I can't figure out how to use canary now | 23:36 |
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| El_Che: this one doesn't have travis: https://github.com/perl6/rakudo-pkg-canary/commits/master | 23:36 |
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| El_Che: and this one has… travis-pro? https://github.com/nxadm/rakudo-pkg-canary | 23:36 |
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| Dunno, it looks different, and I think I don't have access | 23:41 |
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