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	2019-02-08
leszekdubiel	Array @csv = [{:col1("cel11"), :col2("cel12")}, {:col1("cel21"), :col2("cel22")}]	00:00
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leszekdubiel	What does "Z=>" mean?	00:01
timotimo	zip two arrays together by combining the individual items with the => operator	00:02
	(also, stop at the shorter list's end)	00:02
leszekdubiel	Excellent. :) But hard to find in documentation... I fount only here: https://perl6advent.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/the-x-and-z-metaoperators/	00:06
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timotimo	not sure if there's a good way to make that searchable in the docs	00:11
	just chop off an initial Z or X and search for what's left recursively	00:12
leszekdubiel	Ok, thank you. Good night. Greetings from Poland. :)	00:13
timotimo	good night leszekdubiel!	00:15
leont	Damn, I just now realized I needed Z=> for a problem someone else posted here recently :-p	00:18
timotimo	oh snap!	00:18
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AlexDaniel	.tell jmerelo OK I did some preliminary work… maybe I will be able to finish it tomorrow, so perhaps not a big deal given that people usually start on Saturday…	00:32
yoleaux	AlexDaniel: I'll pass your message to jmerelo.	00:32
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	jmerelo warns of some rough spots ahead while I test ecosystem-unbitrot	06:52
yoleaux	00:32Z <AlexDaniel> jmerelo: OK I did some preliminary work… maybe I will be able to finish it tomorrow, so perhaps not a big deal given that people usually start on Saturday…	06:52
jmerelo	squashable6: status	07:03
squashable6	jmerelo, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in ≈2 hours (2019-02-09 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day	07:03
jmerelo	yay!!!	07:03
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: a9df30b2ba \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 2 files	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds URLS	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/a9df30b2ba	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: eb2b08c966 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 2 files	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds mapping per module	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/eb2b08c966	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 8918c81e02 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 2 files	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds state-opening routines	07:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/8918c81e02	07:14
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AlexDaniel	jmerelo: good morning	07:28
	jmerelo: OK, stop, let's talk	07:30
	jmerelo: we need to figure out how this is going to work	07:31
	jmerelo: I have a json file with all modules, their status and their output	07:32
	also, I don't want people to close issues when a module was not fixed	07:33
	e.g. a PR was submitted but not merged	07:33
	this way the next time we do this type of a squashathon we won't need to go through the same modules again	07:33
jmerelo	AlexDaniel: I need to go to work now	07:36
	Let's talk in 30 minutes	07:36
AlexDaniel	ok!	07:36
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squashable6	Webhook for perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot is now active! Design for failure.	07:50
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: f2bba174d2 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| data/blin-output.txt	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Remove generated blin-output file	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: It is changing all the time, and soon we'll not need to have it as a	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: reference.	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/f2bba174d2	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 1269340553 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| template.md	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: New issue template	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/1269340553	08:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 9c390d7272 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 4 files	08:05
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Move old scripts to scripts/	08:05
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	08:05
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: These scripts may be needed sometimes, but our workflow no longer	08:05
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: relies on them.	08:05
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/9c390d7272	08:05
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: c029ea6ac1 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| template.md	08:07
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: It's not guaranteed that we know the author	08:07
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/c029ea6ac1	08:07
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 6524317910 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 3 files	08:16
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Unbitrot::Utils, script placeholder	08:16
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/6524317910	08:16
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: b0c62ccfed \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| lib/Unbitrot/Utils.pm6	08:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Better url, removed some code, other tiny fixes	08:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/b0c62ccfed	08:21
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: b8f8818a0b \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 3 files	09:01
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Getting close to a working prototype	09:01
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/b8f8818a0b	09:01
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AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: hello, I'm getting somewhere. I need some help though	09:10
jjmerelo	shoot	09:11
yoleaux	2 Jan 2019 00:53Z <uzl> jjmerelo: I read you're writing a P6 book, JJ! Will it be a "bible" reference like "Programming Perl" or something less extensive?	09:11
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: can you review https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/blob/master/template.md ?	09:11
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: yep	09:11
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: also I bastardized a bunch of your code :)	09:11
jjmerelo	.tell uzl it's going to be a book for APress, "Perl 6 quick reference". Already 4 chapters into it, will amount to 15 chapters. No bible, though.	09:11
yoleaux	jjmerelo: I'll pass your message to uzl.	09:11
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: you did great :-)	09:12
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jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: shouldn't that template say something about the actual state in the file?	09:13
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: for example?	09:13
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 14eb55acf5 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| template.md	09:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds blin-message	09:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/14eb55acf5	09:14
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: ahhhhhh yes yes yes	09:15
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: where's data.json?	09:16
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: it's a 2M json file: https://gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/eb8a7da20bf4fc1f4c3c8972e42ff993	09:16
jjmerelo	I don't see why it's not in the repo	09:17
	Or in a permanent URL	09:17
	Anyway, I'll download it for testing.	09:17
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 15e2211db3 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 2 files	09:18
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Functional issue submitter	09:18
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/15e2211db3	09:18
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: prz don't commit a 2M file that is constantly changing to a repo :)	09:18
	plz* :)	09:18
	jjmerelo: is it needed for general public? I though issues is what people should be looking at	09:19
	maybe I'm wrong	09:19
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 9c251b6ea8 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| bin/update-issues.p6	09:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds substitution	09:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/9c251b6ea8	09:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 68cf586919 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 2 files	09:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Looks fine now	09:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/68cf586919	09:21
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 4d1f8f08bc \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| bin/update-issues.p6	09:22
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds self to pinging	09:22
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/4d1f8f08bc	09:22
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 64d1f1e850 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 2 files	09:23
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: BLIN-MESSAGE → BLIN-STATUS	09:23
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	09:23
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: It's not a human-readable description unfortunately.	09:23
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/64d1f1e850	09:23
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: the goal of that Ping line was to ping the author of the module	09:24
	jjmerelo: I just didn't have a better placeholder :)	09:24
	jjmerelo: I'm actually not sure how to get a github username from module name easily…	09:24
jjmerelo	I thought it was to ping someone for closing or reviewing or whatever...	09:24
	AlexDaniel: in the most general case, you can't	09:24
	AlexDaniel: you can maybe use META6.json, but we would need to download it	09:25
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AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: well if I just knew the clone url, then maybe…	09:26
	where's my yet another hack-in-5-minutes-script to do that	09:27
	I bet I had it somewhere	09:27
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: Maybe not worth the while...	09:27
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: maybe… so I think I should just run it? :)	09:27
	so you think*	09:27
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: aeae5772e6 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| lib/Unbitrot/Utils.pm6	09:30
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Recommit removed patch sub	09:30
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	09:30
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: It is used by close-single-issue	09:30
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/aeae5772e6	09:30
AlexDaniel	squashable6: status	09:30
squashable6	AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon is in 29 minutes (2019-02-09 UTC-12⌁UTC+14). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day	09:30
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: can we shift it by 2 hours or so? I don't want the squashathon to start while I'm populating the repo	09:31
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AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: here's the current output: https://gist.github.com/AlexDaniel/2d24e91209b3586df05418da65b41d93	09:35
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: you would have to change squashable...	09:35
	Let's just stay quiet and not encourage people to participate...	09:36
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	jjmerelo thinks it's quite unlikely that people does anyway...	09:36
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: no but the issue is that me submitting the issues will trigger squashable…	09:36
	I can make it quite on this channel, but the log will still have a bunch of stuff in it…	09:37
	quiet* :)	09:37
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: We'll make you not eligible for the plush toy anyway	09:37
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: can you check the README? I think the process is different now	09:38
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: and it's going to become even more	09:38
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: btw I'm expecting that contributors will use this link: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+-label%3A%22PR+sent%22+-label%3A%22deprecated+module%22+-label%3A%22native+dependency%22	09:39
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: where in the body are you setting the issue to open?	09:39
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: I don't think you need to? If there's no ticket, I submit a open a new one	09:40
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AlexDaniel	and submitting a ticket doesn't require any change to `state`	09:40
	squashable6: status	09:40
squashable6	AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon in ≈2 hours (2019-02-09 UTC-14⌁UTC+12). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day	09:40
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: if it's closed, you're creating a new body, but not setting it to open	09:40
	(That's why I always test)	09:41
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: shit the $url is wrong	09:43
Harzilein	<jjmerelo> AlexDaniel: We'll make you not eligible for the plush toy anyway	09:43
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 1482597d62 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| lib/Unbitrot/Utils.pm6	09:45
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Fix submit-issue by using the right url	09:45
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/1482597d62	09:45
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: should be fixed now	09:45
	jjmerelo: doing a POST on that url files a new issue	09:46
	at least that's what was used in populate-issues.p6	09:46
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: dc754c0d76 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 3 files	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds meta for easy installation and test	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/dc754c0d76	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: f1f637f99c \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 3 files	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds JSON and fixes tests	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/f1f637f99c	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 42fe4be67d \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| lib/Unbitrot/Utils.pm6	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Adds 'is export'	09:51
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/42fe4be67d	09:51
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: can we make sure that nobody runs tests in t/ ?	09:52
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: what I'm tryingo to is to make them work...	09:52
AlexDaniel	because that will bang github API in very unwanted ways…	09:53
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: it will not	09:53
AlexDaniel	only if GH_TOKEN is set?	09:53
jjmerelo	let me fix the tests	09:54
	I'm working on that but you keep changing the functions...	09:54
AlexDaniel	hah sorry :)	09:55
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 0e2feb421e \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 2 files	09:57
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Fetch some metadata from modules.perl6.org	09:57
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/0e2feb421e	09:57
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 9be04c42a8 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| 5 files	09:57
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot	09:57
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/9be04c42a8	09:57
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: OK maybe pull now…	09:57
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: b73e32eb65 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 2 files	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Still tests fail, but need to pull	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/b73e32eb65	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 8f42048e33 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| 2 files	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Merge branch 'master' of github.com:perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/8f42048e33	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 736cac0725 \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| t/0.t6	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Tests passing	10:00
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/736cac0725	10:00
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: did you include state:open in the body?	10:01
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: no, and that's not needed	10:01
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jjmerelo	Also note should indicate whether it's a new issue or we're just opening it	10:01
	AlexDaniel: if you change the issue it opens itself automatically?	10:01
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: my goal is to not reopen close issued	10:01
	closed issues* :)	10:02
	jjmerelo: because closed issues can be from a year ago, they're no longer relevant	10:02
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: but you're rewriting the issue...	10:02
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: that being said, there's a link to the previous ticket in the ticket template	10:02
	jjmerelo: no, it opens a brand new one	10:02
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: Ah, OK.	10:02
	OK, you're good to go.	10:03
	I would have liked to have done it in another way, but, well...	10:03
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: yea I get it, reopen if there's a ticket already. But then we should teach the script to write comments and do other stuff	10:03
	it gets way more complicated this way, and also you still need to reopen after some time	10:04
	oops I mean recreate	10:04
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AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: ok I think I'm getting ready… are we sure that this template is alright?	10:20
	changing it later will be somewhat annoying	10:20
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 188b2db952 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| bin/update-issues.p6	10:25
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Ping module author if possible	10:25
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	10:25
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: This is not 100% correct but it will do the job almos every time.	10:25
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/188b2db952	10:25
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tyil	there's a bridge between this channel and the recently created Discord community :D	10:28
AlexDaniel	tyil: can you send a single ‘hello’ message so that we see how it works?	10:29
discord6	<tyil> 'hello'	10:29
AlexDaniel	uhhh…	10:29
	but right, what did I expect :)	10:30
	I mean, I just hate non-puppeted bridging with passion	10:30
tyil	non-puppeted?	10:30
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AlexDaniel	tyil: https://matrix.org/docs/guides/types-of-bridging.html#double-puppeted-bridge	10:31
	well, federation is even better, of course	10:32
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tyil	I don't think there's such a setup for Discord to IRC (and vice-versa)	10:32
	but it may be a nice project for some people around to make :)	10:33
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tyil	I won't mind running it in my infra if such a project existed, because it would seem nicer to me too	10:33
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jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: I don't think the template might get any better.	10:34
	AlexDaniel: it's good enough.	10:35
AlexDaniel	I'm not sure, maybe you can bridge Discord to Matrix	10:35
	and then we'll get everyone natively in the same room :3	10:35
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tyil	sounds like it will get increasinly slow to communicate with the Discord people then	10:36
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: what's the problem with the template?	10:36
tyil	Matrix is not known to be a bastion of speed nor stability	10:36
AlexDaniel	only if you route it through matrix.org servers	10:37
tyil	which is where most channels are, so no matter which server you pick, it's going to route messages through the matrix.org server	10:38
AlexDaniel	yes but can you federate with freenode yourself? I'm not sure	10:39
tyil	but as I said, if you find (or make) a program that allows for a puppeted bridge, I will gladly host it instead of discord6 :p	10:39
AlexDaniel	I don't mind it, I'm just slightly worried because I've seen channels where they have multiple things relayed in that way	10:39
	like discord slack gitter…	10:40
tyil	you theoretically can, but from what I've heard from ircops, they'd rather not set up any more Matrix bridges because theyre a massive pain to maintain	10:40
AlexDaniel	it just turns into hell on the IRC side, at least for me…	10:40
	tyil: hmm, interesting. I see	10:40
AlexDaniel`	test	10:41
AlexDaniel	yeah, that takes like 3 seconds	10:41
tyil	to arrive at Matrix?	10:41
AlexDaniel	from matrix to irc	10:41
tyil	ah	10:41
AlexDaniel	for some reason it's instant other way	10:42
	anyway, we'll see how it goes :)	10:43
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: knock, knock	10:44
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: who's there? Get out, I don't know you	10:44
	:)	10:45
jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: template is OK.	10:45
	AlexDaniel: go ahead!	10:45
AlexDaniel	OK let's run the script for a single issue and see what happens	10:45
	jjmerelo: omg markdown in tickets is different…	10:46
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 57048205f1 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| bin/update-issues.p6	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Add delays	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/57048205f1	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 173d6e542e \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| template.md	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Remove convenient newlines from the template	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Because GitHub has different markdown parsing everywhere (comments,	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: gists, wikis, …).	10:50
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/173d6e542e	10:50
AlexDaniel	OK attempt №2	10:50
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AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: check it out! https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/322	10:52
	note how it pinged the author and linked to the previous ticket :D	10:52
	jjmerelo: great, though can you delete that comment? :D It reads like the module looks good	10:53
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 4aa424e4c2 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| lib/Unbitrot/Utils.pm6	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Named :$token for consistency with other subs	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/4aa424e4c2	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 326f0422fc \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| template.md	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Point people to the wiki page	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot:	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Let people know that we track native deps of modules to make it easier	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: to run Blin.	10:59
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/326f0422fc	10:59
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jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: OK	11:03
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: maybe test your tests? I changed it to :$token again	11:03
	squashable6: status	11:04
squashable6	AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon is in 55 minutes (2019-02-09 UTC-14⌁UTC+12). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day	11:04
AlexDaniel	OK, running it then	11:04
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jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: OK	11:10
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: f95f733dcc \| (JJ Merelo)++ \| .gitignore	11:11
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: :see_no_evil: Tests are OK	11:11
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/f95f733dcc	11:11
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: 3004ec84b4 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| README.md	11:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Tweak the README slighly	11:14
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/3004ec84b4	11:14
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: wanna bet how long it will take for someone to yell at me because of all these notifications?	11:16
jnthn	AlexDaniel: Thanks to the advance warning, I turned them off yesterday. :-) Thanks for that. I'd not have yelled anyway, but still... :)	11:20
moritz	you would have grumbled :)	11:20
jnthn	If I grumble in an empty office and nobody hears, did I really grumble? :)	11:23
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moritz	well, yourself. Problem solved. :D	11:24
AlexDaniel	.oO( it could've been the office itself that grumbled… )	11:25
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AlexDaniel	btw I have really high hopes for the ecosystem-unbitrot repo	11:26
	it may be noisy now, but running the script again will not create new tickets if they already exist	11:27
	and it will close tickets if the problem is gone	11:27
	so we can use this repo continuously to keep the ecosystem healhy	11:28
	healthy* :)	11:28
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jnthn	Very nice.	11:30
AlexDaniel	squashable6: status	11:33
squashable6	AlexDaniel, ⚠🍕 Next SQUASHathon is in 26 minutes (2019-02-09 UTC-14⌁UTC+12). See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day	11:33
AlexDaniel	jjmerelo: will you be around to help people? I wanna take a break today…	11:33
	jjmerelo: note that we shouldn't close tickets, only label them	11:34
	jnthn: I wonder, did you receive any notifications for @croservices org?	11:36
	jnthn: even if the module is not watched, ticktes like this will ping authors anyway: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/549	11:37
	but I wonder if it works for organizations	11:37
	haha, the way I type right now :D OK time to take a break	11:38
jnthn	AlexDaniel: Yes, I got the ones with mentions	11:41
	AlexDaniel: Though this looks odd:	11:41
	Module IO::Socket::Async::SSL cannot be installed (InstallableButUntested)	11:41
	So the status is InstallableButUntested and the log below shows it's installed OK, so now does "cannot be installed" describe things?	11:42
	Also the module has tests :)	11:42
AlexDaniel	haha!!	11:42
	jnthn: actually… Blin skips some modules because they don't behave well	11:43
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AlexDaniel	so the ticket is probably valid in a sense that the module needs to chill during its testing phase	11:44
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jjmerelo	AlexDaniel: not right now, I'm on a meeting, but I'll be this afternoon	11:44
jnthn	Hm, wonder why it doesn't behave well...	11:44
AlexDaniel	jnthn: https://github.com/perl6/Blin/blob/80417a8ea784e6655fde9aa7aec17e66268b1879/bin/blin.p6#L48	11:45
jnthn	Also I got told off for NativeCall: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/478	11:45
	Which is part of Rakudo :)	11:45
AlexDaniel	jnthn: so if it's part of rakudo, then why https://modules.perl6.org/dist/NativeCall:cpan:JONATHAN/META6.json#L13	11:46
jnthn	AlexDaniel: Ah, as I remember it there was a hang resulting from a Rakudo bug that was fixed that it relied on, but I think that was resolved.	11:46
	ooh, why is that still in the ecosystem...	11:46
	I mean, once I guess it wasn't in Rakudo	11:47
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jnthn	Wonder how I can be rid of that	11:47
AlexDaniel	jnthn: leave a comment that it should be OK to test it now, I'll unskip it in blin and the ticket will be closed automatically later	11:47
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: titsuki self-assigned MeCab https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/471	11:48
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: titsuki self-assigned App::AizuOnlineJudge https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/333	11:50
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: e919c8cba5 \| (Aleks-Daniel Jakimenko-Aleksejev)++ \| README.md	12:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Do not close issues, just label them	12:03
	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/commit/e919c8cba5	12:03
squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by AlexDaniel++! ♥	12:03
	🍕 holli-holzer++ wrote a comment on “Color::Scheme”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/356#issuecomment-461782003	12:03
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squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “November” (broken beyond repair): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/487	12:11
frankjh	Hi, I got an email wrt https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/368. I am confident, that the test once worked, so probably perl6 or the infrastructure changed. How do I address this?	12:11
squashable6	🍕 nkh++ wrote a comment on “Data::Dump::Tree”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/374#issuecomment-461783959	12:11
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by nkh++! ♥	12:11
AlexDaniel	frankjh: do you on which rakudo version it used to work?	12:12
	I can bisect it for you quickly	12:12
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “November” (deprecated module): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/487	12:13
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “November” (broken beyond repair): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/487	12:13
	🍕 ryn1x++ wrote a comment on “Graphics::TinyTIFF”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/410#issuecomment-461784529	12:14
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by ryn1x++! ♥	12:14
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “November”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/487#issuecomment-461784922	12:16
frankjh	AlexDaniel: I hope I did not destroy that info just now, by pressing restart build on travis. https://travis-ci.org/soundart/perl6-tweetnacl/builds	12:18
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Graphics::TinyTIFF” (native dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/410	12:19
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Graphics::TinyTIFF”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/410#issuecomment-461785637	12:19
frankjh	AlexDaniel: it probably was This is Rakudo version 2018.05-98-g61878c3e0 built on MoarVM version 2018.05-131-g9fb02c950implementing Perl 6.c.	12:20
AlexDaniel	frankjh: OK, testing it. It will take a few minutes	12:21
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Data::Dump::Tree” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/374	12:23
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Data::Dump::Tree”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/374#issuecomment-461786927	12:25
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AlexDaniel	frankjh: 🥞🥞🥞 Bisecting Crypt::TweetNacl	12:25
	frankjh: we'll see the result soon, but I guess you're right that it's a regression of some sort	12:25
	frankjh: I confirm that on 2018.05 it passes OK	12:26
frankjh	AlexDaniel: travis uses now his is Rakudo version 2018.12-288-g5be7555fd built on MoarVM version 2018.12-45-ga9d02578aimplementing Perl 6.d. and it falis there too	12:27
AlexDaniel	frankjh: yeah… I wonder how we managed to miss that	12:27
	frankjh: ok, it was bisected to this commit: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/commit/762c708fdcef3e52f49800ba9a621d29449e82fa	12:34
squashable6	🍕 niner++ wrote a comment on “Inline::Perl5”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/435#issuecomment-461789082	12:34
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by niner++! ♥	12:34
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Inline::Perl5” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/435	12:34
AlexDaniel	frankjh: can you file a rakudobug here? https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues	12:35
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Crypt::TweetNacl” (rakudobug): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/368	12:36
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frankjh	AlexDaniel: ok, many thanks	12:47
	AlexDaniel: https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2681	12:52
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Crypt::TweetNacl”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/368#issuecomment-461794008	12:54
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AlexDaniel	frankjh: thank you!	12:56
frankjh	Is there a way to start the travis build of Tweetnacl automatically if a new perl6 is released?	12:58
squashable6	🍕 nkh++ wrote a comment on “Data::Dump::Tree”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/374#issuecomment-461794947	12:58
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lizmat	[14:00:31] <+Geth> ¦ rakudo: lizmat self-assigned Crypt::TweetNacl test suite fails since 762c708fdcef https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues/2681	13:00
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AlexDaniel	frankjh: I don't of a way to do that, but I personally test every module before every release	13:01
lizmat	^^^ shouldn't that one have appeared here during the Squashathon?	13:01
AlexDaniel	frankjh: in fact that's how we got that ticket :)	13:01
	frankjh: the interesting thing about it is that somehow we missed it a few months ago… usually that doesn't happen…	13:01
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leszekdubiel	hello!	13:02
AlexDaniel	frankjh: “don't know of a way to do that”**, sorry I can't type today :)	13:02
leszekdubiel	i have a problem to solve....	13:03
	printf "A\tB\n1\t2\n3\t4\n" \| perl6 -e 'my @kol = $IN.get.split("\t"); dd $IN.lines.map({ hash @kol Z=> .split("\t"); }); '	13:03
	prints:	13:03
AlexDaniel	lizmat: probably not? I'm not expecting many rakudobugs	13:03
leszekdubiel	({:A("1"), :B("2")}, {:A("3"), :B("4")}).Seq	13:03
lizmat	AlexDaniel: okidoki	13:03
leszekdubiel	but I need such a result:	13:03
	printf "A 1\tB 2\nA 3\tB 4\n"	13:03
evalable6	leszekdubiel, rakudo-moar 5be7555fd: OUTPUT: «A 1␉B 2␤A 3␉B 4␤»	13:03
leszekdubiel	printf "A\tB\n1\t2\n3\t4\n" \| perl6 -e 'my @kol = $IN.get.split("\t"); $IN.lines.map({ hash @kol Z=> .split("\t"); }).map({ dd $_ }) '	13:06
	shows keys	13:06
AlexDaniel	leszekdubiel: I don't know an elegant way to do it, but what about	13:09
	printf "A\tB\n1\t2\n3\t4\n" \| perl6 -e 'my @kol = get.split("\t"); .join(“\t”).say for lines.map({ (@kol X~ ‘ ’) Z~ .split("\t"); });'	13:09
	or maybe even	13:10
	printf "A\tB\n1\t2\n3\t4\n" \| perl6 -e 'my @kol = get.split("\t"); .join(“\t”).say for lines.map({ @kol Z .split("\t"); });'	13:10
leszekdubiel	works great! :) Thank you.	13:11
AlexDaniel	frankjh: so, generally, don't worry about it, we'll be checking that for you. Even if we miss it again somehow, we now have ecosystem-unbitrot repo where we will keep track of further issues	13:14
	frankjh: just keep writing great modules and we'll do the rest :)	13:14
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squashable6	🍕 jnthn++ wrote a comment on “IO::Socket::Async::SSL”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/426#issuecomment-461799080	13:15
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by jnthn++! ♥	13:15
	🍕 jnthn++ labeled issue “IO::Socket::Async::SSL” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/426	13:15
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scimon	For squashathon purposes what varsion should we be testing? The 2018.12 build? Or HEAD?	13:17
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AlexDaniel	scimon: the data is from HEAD, but you should see the same error in 2018.12	13:23
	scimon: if something is failing on HEAD but not on 2018.12 it should be reported… https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3A%22%E2%9A%A0+blocker+%E2%9A%A0%22	13:24
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Algorithm::LibSVM” (rakudobug): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/329	13:24
frankjh	AlexDaniel, lizmat: thanks	13:25
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Algorithm::LibSVM”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/329#issuecomment-461801629	13:25
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: masak self-assigned GGE https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/399	13:27
squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by masak++! ♥	13:27
	🍕 vendethiel++ wrote a comment on “Sprockets”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/520#issuecomment-461803573	13:32
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by vendethiel++! ♥	13:32
AlexDaniel	lizmat: “Since this was caught by tests, I guess we don't need any further tests?” uhhhh not really	13:32
	lizmat: I think we shouldn't be relying on the ecosystem	13:32
lizmat	ok, fair enough	13:33
	lizmat added "testneeded" label	13:33
AlexDaniel	lizmat++ ♥	13:33
	wait, there's no pizza bot	13:33
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AlexDaniel	a squashathon without pizza… I want a refund, now	13:34
squashable6	🍕 lizmat++ wrote a comment on “Crypt::TweetNacl”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/368#issuecomment-461804323	13:34
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by lizmat++! ♥	13:34
	🍕 lizmat++ closed issue “Crypt::TweetNacl”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/368	13:34
	🍕 vendethiel++ wrote a comment on “Hydrate”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/423#issuecomment-461804395	13:35
AlexDaniel	lizmat: fwiw this time, generally, we will be letting issues autoclose once modules become installable	13:35
lizmat	oki	13:35
squashable6	🍕 lizmat++ reopened issue “Crypt::TweetNacl”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/368	13:36
	lizmat is in the middle of some other stuff, but please ping me if you think I can provide a quick resolve	13:36
squashable6	🍕 vendethiel++ wrote a comment on “Hydrate”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/423#issuecomment-461806890	13:43
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Ven``	o/	13:45
	m: Mu<>;	13:46
camelia	rakudo-moar 5be7555fd: OUTPUT: «Type check failed in binding to parameter '<anon>'; expected Any but got Mu (Mu)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»	13:46
Ven``	^ is that fine at is?	13:46
	m: ($ = Mu)<>.perl.say	13:46
camelia	rakudo-moar 5be7555fd: OUTPUT: «Type check failed in binding to parameter '<anon>'; expected Any but got Mu (Mu)␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤»	13:46
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Ven``	AlexDaniel: investing the failures in my modules, but I'm not doing too great ):	13:48
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squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Hydrate”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/423#issuecomment-461811526	14:00
AlexDaniel	Ven``: left a comment… but I have no idea why would you get Mu anywhere	14:00
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Ven``	AlexDaniel: well, I very much want to get Mu.	14:04
	also I don't see anything about postcircumfix:<> in that bisected commit	14:05
	oh it calls hash_slice underneath	14:05
	so it's the postcircumfix:{ } candidate that fails	14:06
	m: my $mu = Mu; say Mu =:= Mu, $mu =:= Mu;	14:06
camelia	rakudo-moar ada116ef9: OUTPUT: «TrueFalse␤»	14:06
Ven``	^ AlexDaniel: here's why I use <>	14:06
	as a decon	14:07
	as a decont*	14:07
AlexDaniel	lizmat: maybe you can help? ↑	14:08
Ven``	though honestly the other failure for Sprockets, the VMNull call, is just as perplexing...	14:08
lizmat	yeah, looking at it sideways already: if there's a ticket, please assign to me	14:09
Ven``	lizmat++	14:09
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Math::FFT::Libfftw3” (native dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/468	14:10
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Math::FFT::Libfftw3” (rakudobug): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/468	14:10
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Math::FFT::Libfftw3”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/468#issuecomment-461814699	14:11
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Chronic” (rakudobug): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/353	14:15
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squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “JSON::RPC” (rakudobug): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/440	14:18
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scimon	AlexDaniel: Cheers.	14:25
AlexDaniel	o/	14:25
squashable6	🍕 CurtTilmes++ labeled issue “LibCurl” (native dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/447	14:31
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by CurtTilmes++! ♥	14:31
	🍕 CurtTilmes++ edited wiki page “Home”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/wiki/Home	14:33
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squashable6	🍕 Garland-g++ wrote a comment on “Libui”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/451#issuecomment-461833061	15:09
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Garland-g self-assigned Libui https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/451	15:09
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greppable6	AlexDaniel, 10 lines, 2 modules: https://gist.github.com/1a2a1d199a2b47cdd89342dd788c8e34	16:21
timotimo	Geo::IPCities? :D	16:21
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synopsebot	Link: https://doc.perl6.org/type/Buf	16:53
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jmerelo	I have updated the River scores, to check which are the modules in the ecosystem with the highest number of dependencies: https://github.com/JJ/p6-river/blob/master/data/river-scores.csv	17:48
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “HTTP::UserAgent”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/420#issuecomment-461887688	17:49
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ufobat___	strange	17:51
	should i drop that one from ecosystem because its on cpan as well	17:51
	( i think )	17:51
jmerelo	ufobat___: which one?	17:52
squashable6	🍕 lizmat++ wrote a comment on “Map::Ordered”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/464#issuecomment-461888548	17:52
jmerelo	The "old" one is in Github	17:52
	Hum, no. That one is redirected to Bailador/Bailador.	17:52
	ufobat___ is confused	17:53
ufobat___	what should i do?	17:53
jmerelo	It's probably picking up the CPAN one.	17:53
AlexDaniel	I'm also very confused about this	17:54
lizmat	jmerelo: perhaps modules like NativeCall should be excluded from the river	17:54
ufobat___	is this https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/439 beause of the "same" issue	17:54
AlexDaniel	lizmat: perhaps modules like NativeCall should be excluded from the ecosystem :P	17:54
ufobat___	there is on on github and one on cpan	17:54
lizmat	AlexDaniel: there was a reason we added them...	17:54
AlexDaniel	lizmat: https://colabti.org/irclogger/irclogger_log/perl6?date=2019-02-08#l453	17:54
ufobat___	but for both ( i assume ) that the github "version" is the same that is on cpan	17:54
jmerelo	lizmat: it's interesting to know the score anyway...	17:54
AlexDaniel	lizmat: it's part of rakudo, it shouldn't be in the ecosystem	17:55
jmerelo	lizmat: I can exclude them by checking if they are in the ecosystem or not, if you think that's helpful.	17:55
squashable6	🍕 ufobat++ wrote a comment on “IoC”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/439#issuecomment-461889449	17:55
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by ufobat++! ♥	17:55
AlexDaniel	lizmat: it's currently pointing at zavolaj :D	17:55
lizmat	ah... ok, yes, that should most definitely be gone from the ecosystem	17:55
jmerelo	ufobat___: we can delete it from the ecosystem and leave only the CPAN version.	17:56
	CPAN is OK, right?	17:56
lizmat	as in: findable on modules.perl6.org?	17:56
	if so, then yes	17:57
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Bailador”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/344#issuecomment-461890754	17:59
	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “Bailador” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/344	17:59
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squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “IRC::Client”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/427#issuecomment-461893260	18:08
leont	jmerelo: is there any place where I can look up what modules depend on a specific module	18:10
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jmerelo	leont: you can use zef, I think it's something like zef rdepend	18:13
	leont: you can also use my "River" module...	18:13
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squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by lukasvalle++! ♥	18:15
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	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by Leont++! ♥	18:16
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leont	Sorry for breaking stuff :-(	18:17
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “IRC::Client” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/427	18:18
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jmerelo	leont: you can look at the river score: Path::Iterator, 232,	18:23
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squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “HTTP::Server::Ogre”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/418#issuecomment-461898393	18:25
leont	Yeah, those 4 are all the dependents	18:25
squashable6	🍕 Skarsnik++ wrote a comment on “Discord”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/381#issuecomment-461898510	18:25
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by Skarsnik++! ♥	18:25
leont	An s/Iterator/Finder/ should fix all of those four modules. Or uploading a stub module deriving from, but yuk.	18:26
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “Pluggable” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/502	18:27
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squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “epoll” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/550	18:30
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: JJ self-assigned License::Software https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/452	18:31
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “License::Software”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/452#issuecomment-461900413	18:32
jmerelo	leont++	18:32
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “License::Software” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/452	18:33
	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “Crust::Middleware::Session” (PR sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/367	18:35
	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Crust::Middleware::Session”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/367#issuecomment-461901488	18:35
	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “MPD::Client” (issue sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/462	18:36
	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “MPD::Client”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/462#issuecomment-461901854	18:37
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: JJ self-assigned PDF::Class https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/492	18:37
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	¦ doc: ... a few more words to {code,words}.pws	18:40
	¦ doc: review: https://github.com/perl6/doc/commit/041fe205aa	18:40
leont	jmerelo: If you want to assign me the other two (Bailador & HTTP::Server::Ogre) that's fine by me	18:45
Geth	¦ ecosystem: 94a7f13869 \| (Juan Julián Merelo Guervós)++ (committed using GitHub Web editor) \| META.list	18:45
	¦ ecosystem: Removes Discord	18:45
	¦ ecosystem:	18:45
	¦ ecosystem: Requested by @Skarsnik in https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/381#issuecomment-461898510	18:45
	¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/94a7f13869	18:45
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squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by Kaiepi++! ♥	18:46
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squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “PDF::Class” (PR sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/492	18:52
jmerelo	leont: will do	18:53
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squashable6	🍕 JJ++ unlabeled issue “HTTP::Server::Ogre” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/418	18:54
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: JJ self-assigned WebService::FootballData https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/542	18:55
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Net::DNS”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/480#issuecomment-461908234	18:57
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	🍕 lukasvalle++ reopened issue “Net::DNS”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/480	18:58
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Net::DNS”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/480#issuecomment-461908759	18:58
AlexDaniel	Kaiepi: I think there are now two PRs for that module :D	19:00
	Kaiepi: https://github.com/mryan/perl6-Slang-AltTernary/pulls	19:00
Kaiepi	oh whoops	19:01
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Discord” (deprecated module): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/381	19:02
	🍕 Kaiepi++ wrote a comment on “cro”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/549#issuecomment-461910175	19:03
AlexDaniel	jmerelo: how much time does this take to install? https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/492	19:03
	IIRC the tests are so slow that they time out	19:03
squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “HTTP::UserAgent”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/420#issuecomment-461910531	19:04
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “PDF::Class”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/492#issuecomment-461910574	19:04
rindolf	AlexDaniel: hi, is there a hackathon now?	19:06
AlexDaniel	rindolf: yes!	19:06
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rindolf	AlexDaniel: ah	19:06
AlexDaniel	rindolf: https://perl6.github.io/ecosystem-unbitrot/	19:07
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “epoll” (issue sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/550	19:08
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “epoll” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/550	19:08
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “epoll”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/550#issuecomment-461911829	19:09
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Pluggable” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/502	19:10
	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “WebService::FootballData”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/542#issuecomment-461912865	19:12
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Pluggable”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/502#issuecomment-461912917	19:12
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jmerelo	AlexDaniel: quite a while...	19:13
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mns`	Hi	19:14
AlexDaniel	mns`: hello!	19:14
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mns`	Guys, i'm trying to follow this introduction to perl6 -> https://perl6intro.com	19:15
	but when i'm trying :	19:15
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “Backtrace::AsHTML” (PR sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/343	19:16
	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Backtrace::AsHTML”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/343#issuecomment-461914129	19:16
mns`	my ($a, $b);	19:16
AlexDaniel	squashable6: be quiet	19:16
squashable6	AlexDaniel, .oO( Mmmm… pizza! )	19:16
mns`	$a := $b;	19:16
squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by atweiden++! ♥	19:16
mns`	i've got: Cannot use bind operator with this left-hand side	19:17
	why?	19:17
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mns`	https://perl6intro.com/#_scalars	19:17
timotimo	m: my ($a, $b); $a := $b;	19:18
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: ( no output )	19:18
timotimo	it's the REPL's fault	19:18
	if you put it in one line it works, if you use perl6 -e '...' it works, if you have it in a script it works, but the repl is sometimes very strange	19:19
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mns`	timotimo: i'm in repl	19:19
	timotimo: thx	19:19
timotimo	NP	19:20
	feel free to stick raound and ask more questions	19:20
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mns`	timotimo: nice. i will :)	19:20
AlexDaniel	squashable6: ok be loud again	19:22
squashable6	AlexDaniel, ALRIGHT, LET'S DO IT!!!	19:22
mns`	AlexDaniel: =)	19:22
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ labeled issue “HTTP::Client” (PR sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/415	19:23
jmerelo	squashable6: status	19:23
squashable6	jmerelo, 🍕🍕 SQUASHathon is in progress! The end of the event in 1 day and ≈18 hours. See https://github.com/rakudo/rakudo/wiki/Monthly-Bug-Squash-Day	19:23
	jmerelo, Log and stats: https://gist.github.com/5f1541c585dfe420817936855050fd33	19:23
AlexDaniel	mns`: there's a hackathon today, so this channel is a bit noisy :) https://perl6.github.io/ecosystem-unbitrot/	19:23
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mns`	AlexDaniel: alright, np	19:24
squashable6	🍕 timo++ labeled issue “bamboo” (PR sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/548	19:25
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squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by timo++! ♥	19:25
	🍕 timo++ wrote a comment on “bamboo”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/548#issuecomment-461916973	19:25
Kaiepi	cro's gonna be a toughie to fix	19:25
leszekdubiel	So i have tested that code:	19:26
	printf "A\tB\n1\t2\n3\t4\n" \| perl6 -e 'my @kol = get.split("\t"); .join(“\t”).put for lines.map({ @kol Z .split("\t"); });'	19:26
	input file has 841 kilobytes	19:26
	perl6 processes that in 80 seconds	19:26
	when run 100 times	19:27
	perl 5 makes that 100 times in 1 second	19:27
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squashable6	🍕 atweiden++ wrote a comment on “Digest::xxHash”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/380#issuecomment-461917806	19:28
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	🍕 atweiden++ wrote a comment on “TXN::Parser”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/524#issuecomment-461917844	19:28
	🍕 CurtTilmes++ wrote a comment on “epoll”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/550#issuecomment-461917845	19:28
	🍕 timo++ labeled issue “XXX” (PR sent): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/545	19:29
	🍕 timo++ wrote a comment on “XXX”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/545#issuecomment-461918192	19:29
jmerelo	leszekdubiel: you might get some speedup using types, for instance. But there are some areas where Perl6 could use some speedups.	19:29
squashable6	🍕 timo++ labeled issue “X11::libxdo” (native dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/544	19:29
AlexDaniel	leszekdubiel: oh, wait, but do you take startup time into account?	19:30
	leszekdubiel: for example, how fast is `perl6 -e ''`	19:31
	leszekdubiel: and yes, that is slow. It is very hard to beat perl5 when it comes to startup time	19:31
leszekdubiel	Welll... if I run this only once it takes 7 seconds	19:32
	I don't care about startup time...	19:32
	It can take even one second.	19:32
	But computation time is long...	19:33
squashable6	🍕 timo++ labeled issue “Wkhtmltox” (failing dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/543	19:33
AlexDaniel	leszekdubiel: yeah, something is wrong. Do you have some example data so that I can play around with it a bit?	19:33
squashable6	🍕 timo++ wrote a comment on “Wkhtmltox”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/543#issuecomment-461919557	19:33
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leszekdubiel	Ok! I will prepare data.	19:34
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Wkhtmltox” (failing dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/543	19:34
AlexDaniel	timotimo: I think the meaning of that label is a bit different, although I could be wrong	19:35
	previously we used it when one of the dependencies was preventing the installation of the module	19:36
	I guess the dependency is fine in this case? It's the META6.json that is wrong?	19:36
timotimo	right	19:36
	what other label should i have used? :)	19:36
AlexDaniel	timotimo: `PR sent` after you send a PR? :)	19:37
timotimo	does blin give programs access to "java"?	19:37
AlexDaniel	timotimo: heh… is there a module that runs java during its testing phase? xD	19:37
timotimo	Tika	19:37
	it's a wrapper around a java program	19:38
AlexDaniel	interesting. No, I don't think java is available on that server	19:38
	so `works for me` maybe if it works for you?	19:38
timotimo	i haven't tested it :P	19:38
	a bit too distracted to actually properly work on things	19:39
	but i thought i could triage directly on github	19:39
squashable6	🍕 JJ++ wrote a comment on “Pluggable”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/502#issuecomment-461921660	19:39
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leszekdubiel	@ AlexDaniel: here is the testsuite	19:41
	This runs 7 seconds:	19:41
	time perl -e '$colnum = 500; $rownum = 500; print "column:$_\t" for 1..$colnum; print "\n"; for $r (1..$rownum) { print "data-in-row-$r-col-$_\t" for 1..$colnum; print "\n"; } ' \| perl6 -e 'my @kol = get.split("\t"); .join(“\t”).put for lines.map({ @kol Z .split("\t"); });' \| wc -l	19:42
	in perl5 it runs 0.2 seconds	19:42
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squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “epoll”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/550#issuecomment-461922839	19:42
leszekdubiel	put colnum=900, rownum = 900	19:43
	it lasts 22 seconds	19:43
	perl5 makes that in 0.6 seconds -- half of second	19:43
AlexDaniel	leszekdubiel: ok, let's double check something, what's your rakudo version?	19:44
leszekdubiel	ii rakudo 2016.12-1 all Perl 6 implementation on top of Moar virtual machine	19:44
	dpkg -l in debian	19:44
AlexDaniel	ahhhhhh that could be it	19:44
	it takes 1.2s on my machine	19:44
	rakudo 2018.12	19:44
timotimo	wow that's old :)	19:45
leszekdubiel	Ok ... i have tried ubuntu: ii rakudo 2018.06-1 amd64 Perl 6 implementation on top of Moar virtual machine	19:45
AlexDaniel	leszekdubiel: people were working really hard on performance in these two years, so that's exactly what I'd expect…	19:45
leszekdubiel	it lasts 1 second	19:45
	Wooow! You have made such a bit progress...	19:45
	Sorry for troubling you with that old software.	19:46
timotimo	i wonder if perl6 should, in its repl, point out if it's older than, say, one year? one and a half years?	19:46
leszekdubiel	I won't install any software outside debian repositories on production system.	19:47
AlexDaniel	timotimo: too late, I don't think it'll be more than twice faster any time soon	19:47
leszekdubiel	I hope debian would pull newest version next release cycle.	19:47
AlexDaniel	timotimo: maybe in some rare cases	19:47
	leszekdubiel: yes, 2018.12 will be part of the next debian release	19:47
timotimo	i can imagine that code could be made a bunch faster, too	19:47
	the example code	19:48
AlexDaniel	timotimo: but twice faster is perl5-like performance… hard to beat	19:48
squashable6	🍕 Leont++ wrote a comment on “Getopt::ForClass”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/406#issuecomment-461924763	19:48
leszekdubiel	for users 1.2 seconds or 0.6 seconds doesn't make any difference	19:49
AlexDaniel	depends on the amount of data, I guess :)	19:49
leszekdubiel	we run perl in our business software for textual data processing and files are no bigger than 100Mb; so I'm happy that newer version is the same magnitude of speed as perl5.	19:51
timotimo	the measurement is pretty noisy on my machine :(	19:52
squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “HTTP::UserAgent”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/420#issuecomment-461925924	19:52
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timotimo	time for moarperf to start up (by first recompiling all of cro and its dependencies)	19:53
AlexDaniel	leszekdubiel: on average it is still noticeably slower, and there are some rare cases when the performance is really bad	19:54
	leszekdubiel: but yeah, there's progress on this	19:54
timotimo	perl -e '$colnum = 900; $rownum = 900; print "column:$_\t" for 1..$colnum; print "\n"; for $r (1..$rownum) { print "data-in-row-$r-col-$_\t" for 1..$colnum; print "\n"; } ' \| time perl6 -e 'my @kol = get.split("\t"); .put for lines.hyper(:100batch).map({ (@kol Z .split("\t")).join("\t") });' \| wc -l	19:56
	3.38user 0.12system 0:01.60elapsed 219%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 299712maxresident)k	19:56
	without the .hyper in the middle:	19:56
	3.04user 0.04system 0:03.04elapsed 101%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 98840maxresident)k	19:56
	that is rather good	19:57
leszekdubiel	on my ubuntu: 3.57user 0.08system 0:01.26elapsed 288%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 297688maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (0major+73057minor)pagefaults 0swaps	19:59
	without hyper 3 seconds	20:00
timotimo	that's even better	20:02
leszekdubiel	perl6 is probably cow as perl5... we have had awful experience when string was of length (2**N + 5) then COW stopped working and program instead of few seconds run 40 minutes;	20:07
	hope perl6 doesn't have many tricks inside that may render it unstable	20:08
timotimo	i'm not sure what exact part would be COW	20:08
squashable6	🍕 cygx++ wrote a comment on “Unicode::GCB”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/538#issuecomment-461931161	20:09
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by cygx++! ♥	20:09
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timotimo	leszekdubiel: strings are immutable, but substrings, repetitions, and concatenations are often built as ropes, i.e. "references"	20:26
squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “HTTP::UserAgent”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/420#issuecomment-461935817	20:26
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Unicode::GCB” (fixed): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/538	20:29
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Unicode::GCB”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/538#issuecomment-461936676	20:29
leszekdubiel	ok, thank you.	20:29
timotimo	no prob	20:30
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erick	hello, I think I need privilege to add a label to perl6/ecosystem-unbitro	20:34
AlexDaniel	erick: what's your github handle?	20:35
erick	erickfjordan	20:35
	sorry, erickfjordan	20:36
	correction: erickjordan	20:36
AlexDaniel	erick: check it here https://github.com/perl6	20:37
	I've sent an invitation, you shuold be able to accept it there	20:39
erick	ok thanks	20:39
squashable6	🍕 erickjordan++ labeled issue “Parse::STDF” (native dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/493	20:43
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by erickjordan++! ♥	20:43
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squashable6	🍕 erickjordan++ edited wiki page “Home”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/wiki/Home	20:50
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squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “Task::Noise”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/525#issuecomment-461943743	20:55
Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Scimon self-assigned Uzu https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/539	20:57
squashable6	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by Scimon++! ♥	20:57
	🍕 FCO++ wrote a comment on “Red”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/514#issuecomment-461944799	20:59
	🍕🍕🍕 First contribution by FCO++! ♥	20:59
Geth	¦ ecosystem: 11597eb2d9 \| (Jonathan Stowe)++ \| META.list	21:00
	¦ ecosystem: Remove the Task::Nose	21:00
	¦ ecosystem:	21:00
	¦ ecosystem: This was always problematic as all the dependencies are tricky.	21:00
	¦ ecosystem: review: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem/commit/11597eb2d9	21:00
squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “Task::Noise”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/525#issuecomment-461945205	21:00
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squashable6	🍕 FCO++ labeled issue “Red” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/514	21:01
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	🍕 Scimon++ labeled issue “Uzu” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/539	21:01
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: Scimon self-assigned Tika https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/533	21:12
squashable6	🍕 Scimon++ wrote a comment on “Tika”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/533#issuecomment-461948948	21:14
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Geth	¦ ecosystem-unbitrot: jonathanstowe self-assigned Lumberjack::Application https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/459	21:16
squashable6	🍕 Scimon++ wrote a comment on “Tika”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/533#issuecomment-461949825	21:17
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squashable6	🍕 Scimon++ labeled issue “Typed::Subroutines” (deprecated module): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/536	21:24
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Kaiepi	m: my $s = supply { my Promise $p1 .= new; my Promise $p2 .= new; whenever $p1 { .say; $p2.keep: 2; }; whenever $p2 { .say }; $p1.keep: 1 }; $s.tap({ .say })	21:26
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: ( no output )	21:26
Kaiepi	whenever blocks right?	21:27
	m: my Supply $s = supply { say 1; whenever Promise.new { }; say 2; }; $s.tap({ .say })	21:28
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: OUTPUT: «1␤2␤»	21:28
Kaiepi	m: my Supply $s = supply { say 1; my Promise $p .= new; whenever $p { }; $p.keep; say 2; }; $s.tap({ .say })	21:28
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: OUTPUT: «1␤2␤»	21:28
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Red”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/514#issuecomment-461953097	21:29
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ unlabeled issue “Red” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/514	21:29
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Red” (rakudobug): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/514	21:29
Kaiepi	ok i guess not	21:29
	m: my Supply $s = supply { say 1; my Promise $p .= new; whenever $p { .say }; $p.keep; say 2; }; $s.tap({ .say })	21:29
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: OUTPUT: «1␤2␤True␤»	21:29
squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “Device::Velleman::K8055”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/379#issuecomment-461953702	21:31
	🍕 jonathanstowe++ closed issue “Device::Velleman::K8055”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/379	21:31
Kaiepi	m: my $s = supply { my Promise $p1 .= new; my Promise $p2 .= new; whenever $p1 { emit .result; $p2.keep: 2; }; whenever $p2 { emit .result }; $p1.keep: 1 }; react whenever $s { state $c = 0; .say; done if ++$c == 2 }	21:32
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: OUTPUT: «A react block:␤ in block <unit> at <tmp> line 1␤␤Died because of the exception:␤ No such method 'result' for invocant of type 'Int'␤ in block at <tmp> line 1␤␤»	21:32
Kaiepi	m: my $s = supply { my Promise $p1 .= new; my Promise $p2 .= new; whenever $p1 { emit $_; $p2.keep: 2; }; whenever $p2 { emit $_ }; $p1.keep: 1 }; react whenever $s { state $c = 0; .say; done if ++$c == 2 }	21:33
camelia	rakudo-moar d904b7048: OUTPUT: «1␤2␤»	21:33
Scimon	I took a look at Math::ThreeD but it seems to be based on Panda and I have no experience with it.	21:35
	Sore head. Bye all.	21:38
timotimo	see you and get well soon Scimon :)	21:38
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Device::Velleman::K8055” (native dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/379	21:38
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Device::Velleman::K8055”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/379#issuecomment-461955868	21:39
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ reopened issue “Device::Velleman::K8055”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/379	21:39
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squashable6	🍕 Kaiepi++ wrote a comment on “cro”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/549#issuecomment-461956468	21:41
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Kaiepi	disappointed i can't figure out what's wrong with cro's tests	21:44
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squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ labeled issue “Chronic” (works for me): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/353	21:45
	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “Chronic”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/353#issuecomment-461957572	21:45
	🍕 jonathanstowe++ closed issue “Chronic”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/353	21:45
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AlexDaniel	finally got yelled at!	21:52
	a little bit :)	21:52
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moritz	AlexDaniel: HOW DARE YOU FIX THINGS?!?!?! :D	21:53
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kerrhau	hi	21:58
AlexDaniel	kerrhau: hello!	21:58
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squashable6	🍕 lukasvalle++ labeled issue “Web::Scraper” (failing dependency): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/541	22:03
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squashable6	🍕 Kaiepi++ wrote a comment on “UNIX::Daemonize”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/537#issuecomment-461967913	22:25
Kaiepi	ugh	22:25
	i better get to an issue i can fix because that's 2 in a row i failed to	22:25
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squashable6	🍕 Kaiepi++ closed issue “Hastebin”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/421	22:29
Kaiepi	fucked up my own module lol	22:29
AlexDaniel	xD	22:30
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squashable6	🍕 jonathanstowe++ closed issue “Cache::Memcached”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/350	23:06
	🍕 jonathanstowe++ wrote a comment on “Cache::Memcached”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/350#issuecomment-461977621	23:06
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thundergnat	AlexDaniel: Sorry if I came across as yelling. I meant that to mean "is there something I can put in the testing to fail early if X11 isn't available and don't bother to try if X11 isn't available", not "don't bother me". :-(	23:26
AlexDaniel	thundergnat: it's alright, the situation itself is actually very funny :)	23:29
	this got me thinking…	23:29
	ha, it's there xD	23:30
	https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/396	23:30
squashable6	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Foo::Regressed”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/396#issuecomment-461982877	23:32
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Foo::Regressed” (broken beyond repair): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/396	23:32
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ wrote a comment on “Foo::Regressed::Very”: https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/397#issuecomment-461982953	23:32
	🍕 AlexDaniel++ labeled issue “Foo::Regressed::Very” (broken beyond repair): https://github.com/perl6/ecosystem-unbitrot/issues/397	23:32
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AlexDaniel	is it possible to have a module named ‘’ (empty string)?	23:43
	just found a module with `"depends": [""]` and am wondering if I can satisfy that dependency :D	23:44
timotimo	ouchies	23:45

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